Monday, November 3, 2014

Games People Play

 



        


A lot of games being played in this fandom right now. Why? When people get scared they play games to reassure themselves and the dipshidiots are scared.



Especially Anny Packer. She had multiple monikers going on at the same time feigning Rob and Kristen sightings promising pics were to come. As per usual she outed herself with some manips from 2012. Pathetic is a good word to describe her.





What has the dipshidots and Anny in particular so afraid?



This man in L.A. It scares the crap out of them when he's in L.A. at the same time as his wife Kristen. They were both ninja for a while and that made them frantic.




A fan pic with Rob on October 26th. Take note of the shirt. It's going to show up later in a pap game. I give him props for keeping a straight face with that dudes hair.




Another fan pic. Did he purposely seek out dudes with strange hair to take pics with to make us go wtf? The games Rob plays lol.



Rob supposedly in Chicago on the 28th.  Notice the same shirt that he had on in the L.A. pics from the 26th. Date game being played by the paps. Also notice how clean shaven he is. Rob Pattinson Life was covering their asses by adding "Looks like" 10 minutes after posting pic. So sure of themselves aren't they?


 What else had the dipshidiots scared? Plenty. The name Tim Wolp had them terrified. Supposedly Rob had some accounts in that name and there was a list. One was for "Kris" and the other had baby things.


A time out stool and a onesie.

 Once it got out and he was inundated with follow requests he promptly deleted them. And you wonder why they have to keep things so secret?



This is what scares them the most.




Some trick or treat games with the OG. And Katy Perry. With Kristen's friends. I'd like to hear tarot card lady witch explain that one. NO Rob did not cheat on Kristen with Katy and NO he's not an addict.
I think she needs a new go fish deck.





CJ and some other friends at LF2. Halloween Party at Kristens.




Twiggy was a big fail at the Awards show and now has Jimmy Fallon coming up. You know what game is being played next right?


So much for her wanting to be private. (Nope not showing the ugly branch on my blog anymore.  If you want to see her go over to Rob Pattinson Life or Robsessed. They both kiss her ass plenty. This isn't a Twiggy fan blog.) Private doesn't cut it when she needs all the help she can get with her cd sales. Anybody who doesn't see this for what it  is deserves to be punked big time.




Cute isn't it?  Rob and Kristen like to play the sharing clothes game.


Congratulations to Rob on winning a Cli Fi Award (Climate related movies) for the Rover!



(Admit it you had to look it up to see what it was.)




The Prstens celebrated Kristen's taking a break a little early. Their dreams of Kristen dropping into oblivion have been dashed. She will be everywhere in November as she helps with the Oscar push Sony is giving her.

Nov. 9th AFI roundtable

Nov. 12th Question and answer with Julianne Moore.

Nov.14th Hollywood Awards (televised)

Hope the Prstens enjoy the Kristen fest ! They are going to see her plenty!


 Hehehe. Yeah fuck you.




It is looking like Idols Eye is cancelled for now. I am disappointed as this sounded like a great role for Rob.



@larry411 breaks down the IDOLS EYE events of today: Olivier Assayas' 'Idol's Eye' Starring Robert Pattinson And Robert De Niro Officially Canceled. Been on the phone for hours discussing the Idol's Eye situation...bottom line is the bottom line. Benaroya speaks for himself. We don't know the specifics of why he pulled out. All we know is he refused to keep spending money on the project. The implication is that Gillibert and/or the others did not come up with money they promised by this date. I would expect a statement from Gillibert and/or the others since Benaroya has blamed them publicly for the film's cancellation.There are several other possibilities here, involving salaries and/or length of shoot, but those are just speculatory. I say length of shoot because that is partially dictated by the script. Since they mention revising script that could mean length of shoot. It would take a revised script to cut the number of shooting days which could cut the cost. It could be something that simple. It is pretty late in the game but many production costs aren't determined until shooting is almost underway, or already happening.It's not that unusual for a producer to pull out because a film has gone too far over budget. Shooting schedule could be to blame.Those following the film might have noticed that the schedule has changed along with the number of shooting days. I'd be inclined to say that someone reneged on a promise to come up with $ by a certain date, if not for the script mention. I would also interpet "filmmaking team" as others not coming up with $ and/or not willing to revise script to cut shooting days. It is one explanation that accounts for the mention of script, filmmaking team, and financing criteria not being met. But there are others. Of course, there are many reasons why a producer might pull out -- which I'm seeing on my TL. I'm only offering based on their statement. In other words, if you take their statement at face value, these are possible explanations. If you don't, well, anything is possible. All that said, 24 hours from now it could all be back on track again. This could just be a ploy. We've seen it happen before. And i'm sure there's at least one cynical person out there who thinks it's a publicity stunt. New Coke, so to speak. I should also note that this happens much more often than people know. Just that it doesn't always involve these Roberts. Or Assayas. Producers don't usually air their dirty laundry like this. But it gives some insight into the business reality of movies not often seen. There is one thing we can say with 100% certainty. Michael Benaroya is royally pissed at someone.Afterthought: I guarantee you this. There are producers everywhere asking themselves if they want to team with Benaroya to save Idol's Eye.


Guess this means the seventies porn stash is a goner.


Maybe if I pouted he'll keep it?



Well Damn!



I am tired of the panic and drama in this fandom.


Why is it so hard to believe these two are together? They have showed you time and time again that they are.


One of my favs. The way they are looking at each other melts my heart.


This is what is most important  to them. Their little family. And they will do whatever it takes to keep them all safe. It might not make us happy not being able to see them together but thats our problem not theirs. They will continue to do what they have to do and we will have to accept that and trust what we know to be true.


And finally its that time of year!




464 comments:

  1. Well, I am going to bed now. Good night to all the Havens and HKN! Hugs to you all! Keep me posted.

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  2. Great post there, I seen the pictures, not impressed but I suppose she needs all the help she can get, funny how she's about to be on Fallon and we see photo's.

    I thought it was to quiet and we hadn't seen Rob in a while, the Minions of Misery must of been freakin with both R/K mia.

    Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

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  3. Hkn...thank you. Productions get cancelled all the time, even after cast is on set. Bottom line...money.
    Got that one right out of the horses mouth...

    You go girl!

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  4. Wow I get to post the first comment. Great post, I'm so tired of this game that is being played. I have trust that Rob and Kristen knows what they are doing, but I wish they would just stop. Every time I see a pic of him holding the pineapple hand it hurts my heart, I do realize that it is just for show and not real but it still hurts. I have to believe that Rob hasn't done a 360 on his believes about his personal life. I mean how can anyone have read all them interviews in the last 6 months and not think this is a farce. That he all of a sudden don't care if his pics land in the tabloids. It would mean he lie to them all, and where was he for the past yr. when the tabs were only catching a him once in a while. Well I hope this ends soon and I don't mean when her tour ends either.

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  5. Always look forward to your posts! You never let us down. I know dont post comments but I just wanted you to know. Your awesome! Glad you have there backs!

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  6. Well said HKN..of course this will bring the haters out by the dozens and the fence straddlers will run for the hills...bye, bye...

    Just do us a favor and leave the mod button on..indefinitely please...

    Have a good night all...Thanks HKN for the post..

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  7. Dear HKN and 'Nettes -
    Hope everyone had a fun Halloween. It was and has been chilly down in NOLA - pretty early for us.

    HKN - I'm with MC. Keep that mod button pedal to the metal!!!! Thank you for the latest post, I know it's just me, but things are a little weird these days. Again, just me, but the pic of Rob in character for IE in this latest post sorta gave me the skeevies - not one of his best photos.

    Chris b - know how you feel about the pics w/the pineapple.

    To the Haven - sweet dreams and a big hug to each of you! Sorry to be such a bitch - I think I'm just tired.

    Love to each of you!

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  8. HKN this is a greatttt.

    I'm not buying those R and pineapple pic again lol. for what ? they want our attention and I'm not giving it to them.

    I wish this PR shit end real soon. I mean there is no point to play it. there is no win-win for them.
    T got a bunch of hate and R ? what ? he have to get away from the wifey and SweetP's, right ?

    HKN please you should do investigating and post it to your blog often as possible lol this is seriously hit our nerve. blaaaah.

    keep up the good work HKN and have a nice day :)

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  9. Thanks HKn for the post . Well said good night 😘❤️❤️❤️see you next post I hope you have news o you can see you coz :)

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  10. Thank you for your nice post 've been waiting , see it exactly as it Thank you

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  11. good Morning
    Thanks for the post HKN.
    in the deepest inner we know the truth, nevertheless a shocked this image again and again.
    I really do not understand the PR strategy.
    I think no matter what will be also undertaken ​​for a PR strategy, this woman and her music it does not work.
    People need a music direction love to go to concerts, and I must admit I do not like their music. There Rob could lay this woman flat on a public road and his tongue in her cram (sarcasm)
    if someone does not like the music and the person it does not work.
    Likewise, I also do not think it is Rob and kristen music taste.
    Why support and put money on this woman? smh
    If the images you are closely watched little romance to recognize.
    This woman is constantly looking for the Paps, even in the restaurant at dinner
    and has an unfriendly facial expression (could smile for the paps)

    I hope Rob is not the whole November Travelled with her
    more pictures with such a PR shit, what does not help
    He can prefer Kristen this week to support the AFI festival
    In what city this festival take place?
    Have a nice day. love you all. hugs

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  12. Good post and loved the song Games People play. The fact that Rob looks very fake in new photos and phony comes to mind. I find it hard to see where this helps the singer, other than fans expecting Rob at all concerts. Phony does not sell well, its a turn off to most, but that's just my opinion. Unfortunately she has not done well we hear. Sometimes you have to just pull up your socks and go on. If her songs are good, she will make it on her own, because a good song can save a career. I think I would ask Rob to disinfect himself after all those air travel, there is a serious infection out there, and lots of travelers from various nations traveling. Good post HKN. Susie

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  13. So enjoyed the new post. Since IE has been cancel why is Rob still in Toronto and why is the branch there? Just asking. When they were walking around in Germany they have on same clothing are we sure these picture are not from there. Rob has on that ugly blue shirt,skull cap and coat. She has on the same outfit also. Take a close look at some of the picture from then.

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  14. Great post as always Hkn and thankyou just to let you know im going nowhere love it on this blog Hkn always tells the truth 100% with brilliant pictures/video clips also the Ladies of the Haven are some of most lovely people i have come across even though i have never met them personnally wish i could some day their heart is in the right place and they care and its a pleasure to come to this blog also Mama Nails and Tempest blogs fantastic and they are all lovely loyal people aswell,Kristen and Rob will always have my support i wish them well in life and work they are a fantastic couple, well thats me. RL issues are really on top of me at the moment lots of things going on will try to be back later hugs to you all take care have a good day and Happy Bonfire Night for who celebrate it tommorow

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  15. Love your post. Got to say I think it's nuts what Rob is doing. I know the man doesn't throw his money around and he wants a return on his investment but sometimes you need to cut and run. If it were me I'd high tail it out of Dodge and cut my loses. I think this is a bad investment.

    Love you all.

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  16. Beautiful!!1 Still shipping here.......

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  17. HKN
    Thank you ..thank you for not showing that ugly mug on this site again! Great post and sharing IS caring...!

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  18. I wonder how real the pics are from yesterday. If you go back to the original pics from Denmark, he is wearing the same shirt and hat and coat. They can't be more original???? At least find some pics that had him in different clothes. Does he not own anything other than what he was wearing yesterday. Just another level of stupid on the part of the rags. So sad.

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  19. Good morning to ASFJ, Morning Coffee, Paula Bain, NOLAgirl, Happygirl, Sherry, Gigi, Tina, Vernier, andreana, HKN, and to the rest of Havens! I just woke up and woke up my kid. Hope you all are ok. I am still here. I love you all!

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  20. Morning.
    More drama......So typical for this fandom.
    Waiting for the drama to dry up.....Won't be long. ;):):):)

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  21. Morning Havenettes! Loved the new post HKN and thanks as always. I swear this is nothing more than public relations. My degree is in merchandising so when I see it, I know it. Rob is helping to market his product as any shrew and sensible business man would. He has to b/c he and Kris want to get some sort of profit. Nothing more, nothing less.

    You know what's so funny about this? There are people gullible enough to fall for the lies and the game. Everything for Rob and Kris is fine.

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  22. Ladies maybe some of you know if what MN said that she heard that the radio stations in the UK are refusing to play her music? Is this true? So now Rob is trying his so call hand holding PR for her US tour is that why she is in Toronto so the people in the US can see them together and come to her concerts and see him there since IE has been cancelled. I guess with him being there more people will come . Why doesn't Rob go home to his wife and child.

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  23. Well, it could be that both Pattinsons have bankrolled the singer. They probably want to break even, and a million dollars might be a low-ball figure on the extent of the money spent. So lets calm down those jittery feelings and hope they make enough to call it good. In the meantime lets go see some good movies and I promised to take Jacqueline to see Matthew M. in his new movie Interceptor , a new science fiction movie that has a good cast, and he was on TV this morning. Maybe we can all see Kristen in December for Christmas. And, maybe somebody will find money to make that EYE movie with Rob. Leaving to go to Tulsa. Rainy here this day, 1-2 inches overnight. Susie

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  24. Carol Walker were pretty passive people here in Canada but there is a limit...has anyone heard Twigs music..its absolutely terrible and it is extremely difficult to watch her preform

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  25. I am so happy that Kris went on and had her Halloween party even if Rob wasn't there. That made me smile. Kris is a strong young lady. This pr with Rob and branch is not bothering her and I am so happy her friends are behind her as well as Katy Perry. This young lady is so loved and proud she is not saying anything about Rob and this person. Very happy that this was SP first Halloween party.

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  26. Carol sometimes you sound like you believe that R doesn't care about K & Sp, He loves K & Sp very much.

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  27. Rob is friends with jimmy fallon..he must have convinced jimmy to have her on his show..no one knows who she is and she has no hit songs..from the video I watched...she probably never will...
    Rob said he likes toronto cause he can walk his "dog"...........What?

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  28. Carol Walker..Rob was at Halloween party on good authority....

    Sit back and relax...While I disagree with the decision to PR in this manner they( R/K) have a huge investment in this person...however it looks like it's backfiring on a singer.

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  29. Thank you, very much for the post HKN!!! Love your post

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  30. Hi all! Carol, I haven't seen any signs that Kristen actually was at that Halloween party, so who knows. Friends of theirs use the house at times, including Marcus and Sam staying there while Kristen was finishing work in Singapore. Anyway, there is showbiz, and there is real life. Kristen has no reason to be bothered; she will be in NYC, by the way, on Friday for an Academy screening.

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  31. Carole Walker:

    What makes you think Rob wasn't at the party?

    Still reading all the trash sites, I see....

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  32. I am sad that the tour Rob and that girl is still ongoing. It is strange that Rob is dressed just like their pictures, which I once saw. As if the paparazzi sold them until now. I wonder when the PR tour will end? I thought that ended already. I hope it will not be this next year.

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  33. Today Rob has on the tennis shoes I believe Kris gave him that is made by Balagenica. These pictures are from the 3rd. So where was the branch. He was with his assistant.

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  34. with whom Rob is on the way to the latest pictures from Toronto?
    knows someone?

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  35. Loved the post, HKN. There's definitely some game playing going on. The new vid of pineapple straddling the man being executed by lethal injection was a little too sicko for me. I loved Suzie's IG post mirror imaging Rob, and that crazy Scott's posts as a dog nanny for the 3 dogs are hilarious.RK have made the investment in the Branch, now they have to do whatever it takes to make the ROI. I'm so bummed about IE, but I know it can happen anytime. Maybe somehow, it can be salvaged, maybe not. So on to the new movie for Rob and Kris has promo

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  36. HKN Excellent post and timely to calm the fandom.

    Gigi So glad to hear your daughter is enrolled into specialized program to assists her through her schooling/education.

    At Davis, CA, my step grandson, with moderate functioning autism, was afforded a one-on-one assistant throughout his school years. He competed high school and has a diploma is employed as a custodian under specialized funding for the disabled. He is pretty happy to be a productive young man.

    HKN Please keep the trolls out of here! Thank you.

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  37. I am sad that Rob still can be seen with the other girl. When it will end? I hope that you will not already you can see it in his company, in the next year.

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  38. Lenonade take a hike you are a Rob hater...here we respect both of them...I am sick to death of all the made up lies about both of them it is absolutely ridiculous..if a man leaves a woman he's looking for an upgrade not a down grade...There is no upgrade from Kristen...

    They are married, they have a child, they are in love..I don't give a rat's ass who believes it or not..but I am sick to death of all the whining and moaning and dumping on Rob and Kristen...I am sure by now they are both wishing they had never invested in this girls career to help Rob 's friends...

    So heads up people...stop moaning the blues why this and why that...in time we will all know..and it won't change the facts Rob and Kristen are a family with their child...

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  39. Google also invested funding for this business venture so there is reason for pr.

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  40. ASFJ, I was just saying that if he was not there I am happy she still had the party. No I am not reading any trash mag, why do you always think the worst of me? No I don't know if Kris was there are not I was only stating I was happy she still had the party. And I know Marcus, Sam stayed at LF2 when Kris was in Singapore.

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  41. Ooohhhh, MC, that was awesome!! I'm tired of people making assumptions and not using common sense. The pictures of PRBerto are hilarious. For crying out loud the man's an actor - he's playing this part up.

    I can see his wife, Kris, sitting back and laughing as much as we are.

    Thank you, Merle! I'm happy that my daughter is getting the help she needs. She has very high functioning Autism, and most of the time, people don't notice it. One of the administrator's thinks she's gifted. That's a possibility.

    Love to you all.

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  42. Hello to ASFJ, HKN, Tina, Gigi, Merle, and the rest of Havens! I was resting, tutoring two children for their reading, and now I am home and icy my left hip. You all know I have this arthritis called Bursitis. In a hour I will heat it up. I hope you all are ok.

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  43. Morning coffee

    You are so right MC...there is no upgrade from Kristen...and that raunchy unattractive little fame ho is a big fat zero when compared to kristen Stewart...

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  44. Hi ladies...
    I have been discussing this situation with my hubs, who really has no interest in any of it. When I showed him the pics of Rob with Ms.T and explained, he asked, "Where is the romance?" You know, that new feeling, the kissing, the hugging, the "love."
    My feelings exactly. I have never thought this was more than business of some type, because to me, there is no love.
    I will admit I am impatient, I want something to come out to shut these haters up for once and for all. Since I can't hurry it up, I will be patient and stand firm in my belief that Rob and Kristen are just fine.
    Hugs everyone

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  45. Ladies,

    Just sayin girls. i just watched the Google short film. (so it's called) And Google may be looking for their investment back.

    No judgement! But didn't Kris say she was working on a short firm.

    She is listed as the writer, producer, director. Let's just say I might not have put my name on it either.

    If you have not seen it, really you should look.

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  46. sookiePattinson: The Google short film for Google is written, produced and directed by FKA Twigs only.
    Kristen had nothing to do with it.

    Your comment makes it seem that Kristen wrote, produced and directed it.......Kristen did not!


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  47. Great post hkn. I hate that the pics are starting again. I don't believe anything is going on, but I do hate to see the pics. especially since it doesn't appear to be helping her career.

    At least, we will get to see Kristen very soon, and that is always wonderful.

    Take care hkn. Hopefully things will improve for us in this fandom. We just need to be patient.

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  48. Ladies, I do not want to seem rude, but this whole discussion is just boring and same old tripe we saw before so I just do not want to look, talk or feel upset about a rather strange looking singer who cannot sing well, sadly. I love good music, Beyoncé is beautiful, sings like an angel and is very classy. There are tons of singers who have talent, Rob's sister is one, and dear God, I wish they had backed Lizzie for a tour. I am really just disgusted with this, sorry to be rude. Please calm down, they just made an error in judgment, that's all. love, Susie

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  49. It should also be pointed out that Kristen and Little P have not been photographed or run off the road or attacked with or without courteous Paparazzi. For that you can thank Daddy Rob. Of course Rob was there for Halloween, he always is and Kristen is always the unseen member, well somebody has to be holding Little P. Have a nice night, I will not be missing Tonight Show, Jimmy is my favorite nutcase and it is a repeat probably.

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  50. Good night to all the Havens! Keep me posted. Hugs to you all! Love you all! Night!

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  51. I've figured it out! We've had two sets of pics. One with the branch and one with, I'm assuming, is Robs assistant. These pics were back to back days so the branch was actually Robs assistant in drag! Problem solved. Well it makes just as much sense as the rags do. Lol!

    Love you all.

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  52. hello everybody
    all are doing well?
    I have the occurs on Youtube at fallon, from this woman viewed me. lol
    She may bend great but singen.nooo
    she beeping into the microphone
    Did Rob and kristen previously not what she can? nothing lol
    and then goes the round, they also ignored their few fans smh
    see film from Brussels. At the end Rob quickly runs into the building and this woman meters away afterwards. very romantic
    The woman is impossible!

    kristen is long time Mia
    the AFI festival is in NY?
    Have a nice day. hugs

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  53. Morning all.
    I have to say something.....I watched FKA Twigs on Fallon last night.
    I thought she did great. I did like her voice and the performance and i am not one to be easily impressed.

    It is easy to see why Rob and Kristen are backing/promoting her.......The girl is talented. Will try to catch a live performance at some point.

    Jimmy was impressed too. :)
    --------------------
    I don't think there's anything at all romantic between FKA Twigs and Rob.......Not at all. ;):):):)

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  54. Morning all! Great post HKN.

    I haven't comment in a while due to RL drama with my teenager daughter's depression.

    Anna I too thought her performance was decent and may go see her tomorrow, since she will be in my hometown. Undecided on that though.

    I honestly don't see nothing between these two, and not because I don't want to see it. It's just not there to be seen.

    Can't wait to see Kris soon.

    Have a good day all and stop reading all the BS and bringing it here.

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  55. Annie

    I saw her performance on JF too. Her musical style reminds me of Bjork in the 90s. She did a great performance and Jimmy usually likes to showcase artists that are virtually unknown and it's a great way to present them to a wider audience. I don't think her music is going to go mainstream, but at least she'll have a following that fans of her work will like.

    Rob and Kristen like the quirky, outside of the box kind of music. So I can see why they'd promote a new artist like this and get her some exposure. You're right, absolutely nothing romantic between Rob and Twigs. In some of those pics he looks like her manager, bored with having to sit through yet another gig.

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  56. Music is matter of taste, it is not my.
    I've got a question: on the side '' Everyone Has an Opinion`` was read in a post that there are pictures from R and K but they are waiting to publish.
    on wishes! Is it possible that the team from R and K this wishes until the thing with the PR over is? or even Rob and kristen?

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  57. Good morning to all the Havens! Also, HKN! How are you all doing. I didn't watch Fallon's last night. I was watching The Walton Thanksgiving Reunion. I grew up watching that. And also the Christmas specials on my Hallmark channel.

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  58. Hey All:

    I thought this was a blog about R & K? I refuse to discuss Tree Branch and all her performances (some on You Tube and pretty raunchy) on here.....

    There has been a lot of angst over this, not only for us, but I imagine for R & K as well, and I REFUSE to add one more word about this woman.

    They better cut their losses while they can (R & K). She isn't going anywhere....she is a flash in the pan.

    Basta...finito...chiuso.....Google it, if you have to.

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  59. ASFJ

    Good point. This blog is about R and K. We are giving the Branch attention she doesn't deserve.

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  60. Love R and K and HKN. HKN thank you so much. Your much appreciated. I love your positive attitude.

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  61. Annie,ms Lottie and Marion I don't think she was that great. Her singing voice is not that good. So Rob came back to NY for her performance on JF show and was he there? Do you think she would have been on this show if it wasn't for Rob. I still don't care for branch. Let's just focus on Kristen up coming project in the next couple of days in NY.the way some of you are talking you think branch is everything now.

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  62. Carol Walker agree with you opinion
    Beautiful kristen soon to see in NY, I hope Rob stays and tyrants begin to sweat
    I'm happy with the probable Oscar nomination, how happy must be kristen

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  63. HKN and ASFJ

    You both are right this is blog about R&K only. I truly apologized for bringing her name up.

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  64. I think what makes this whole situation difficult for a lot of us R/K fans is that the support of This Woman's music career is clearly something R, and most likely K, is vested in. The whole point of the pics of him and her is to promote HER career.

    Obviously, I support R and want the best for him, but going along with him on this crazy ride of boosting HER career is hard, because I feel like I'm betraying K in some silly way.

    I'm positive R and K are together and all is well with them. I just want this PR show to end!

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  65. Carol: R was with Dakota and Jamie in a restaurant and T was NOT there. Sometimes you sound that you really believe the BS with R & T.

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  66. Caril Walker: I don't think FKA Twigs is all that but i can separate her musical performance art from a non existent, let's repeat....non existent romance with Rob.

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  67. I have to make one tiny point though......While the blog isn't about Twigs, RK are supposedly backing/promoting her, so by extension however much we may dislike the attention via Rob (it is because of him she's getting the attention she's getting, like it or not)......The blog is about Rob and Kristen AND she is attached to Rob and Kristen in a business deal... Let's repeat that last part in CAPS.....
    A BUSINESS DEAL.

    Talking about her makes her more special than let's say Dylan Penn, Katy Perry, Imogen Kerr, Camille Rowe and more? Really?
    So, she held Rob's hand, in what 2 sets of pics? Other than that Rob couldn't even stand to sit close to her in a taxi or even attend her big awards show.....THE MAN WENT HOME TO L A!
    I don't like the handholding pics but i don't see a fucking epic romance either.

    FKA Twigs is not married to Rob.....Kristen is!

    FKA Twigs does not have a baby with Rob......Kristen does!

    FKA Twigs did not just celebrate her first wedding anniversary with Rob.....Kristen did!

    Rob's not in love with FKA Twigs.....He's in love with Kristen Stewart!

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  68. Bravo HKN! Her voice is not as good as Lizzie Pattinson. Do you think she would pass THE VOICE? I think trying to help friend of a friend is very expensive business. Hope she has a hit song to help her make it past the American public marketing hit list. The critics are not kind. But this is a post dedicated to Rob and Kristen, not to unknown singers. She has had lots of help, hope she pays attention to good advice. Mostly hoping to see Kristen soon and also Rob in movies. I think everyone is still reacting to the publicity pictures, and Rob should know that the same people who go to see his movies and Kristen's are the ones that think the publicity sucks. If it does not matter that he is messing with his own career then it really shouldn't matter to anybody else. I hope it will not cause future problems for either Rob or Kristen. In the real world, their public or the folks that care about them, really don't pay much attention to the bullshit advertising of branch, but just hope it will be over soon. Mostly because it is completely fake and demeaning to R., who may be having lots of fun, but at his own expense. End of boring monologue. Still hope they recover their money eventually. Love, Susie

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  69. ASFJ, DITTO. I agree with you, et al. Guess I am too unsophisticated for cut and run bump and grind. She needs to have more voice, from the stomach. I think a lot of voice lessons. Maybe Vegas as a singer/dancer? Jimmy cut her performance or somebody did, he is the nicest person, and he still has my vote for classy. Definitely a good friend in the tough world of entertainment. He makes the best of a difficult situation, always. Dear Kristen and Rob, good luck on that one, truly, good luck. Go to Vegas Twigs.

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  70. Afternoon ladies. How are you all.

    I'm a devout fan of both Rob and Kris and I support whatever business ventures they have. We get to see Kris in a few days!! On pins and needles. She's a truly classy woman with admirable creativity.

    They are truly soul mates. Watching them fall in love was beautiful.

    We have church tonight so I'll be back later.

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  71. Hey Ladies...let me try to mediate here...

    some of you have based your opinions of her music based on last nights performance on JK show..I went to view it earlier..it is extremely tame compared to her normal routine and her videos are gross and border on soft porn..

    I hope R/K recoup their investment for their sakes..and any others who may have money invested money in this venture...However I don't think we need to promote her career here or continue to insult her the way the trolls and haters do to Kristen..

    Let's show some respect for what HKN's mission statement is.

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  72. KRISTEN- Friday, Nov, 7, in NY? Has anyone watched FIERCE PEOPLE? That movie, as much as Sean Penn's movie about Awakenings, INTO THE WILD, was a very good testimony to Kristen's amazing talents. I love Donald Sutherland and Diane Lane was great. Anyway, waiting for new movies from both and hoping that she is doing well. Susie

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  73. I don't think anyone was disrespecting her. What I read is merely people's opinion. That's called a critique. I didn't watch her and don't plan to. I'm not interested in what sounds like a Miley Cyrus wannabe.

    Love you all.

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  74. Objectively speaking from someone who is trained in music, her performance is mediocre to say the least. Just imagine this:
    - Remove the flashing lights and props (fans, reams of cloths bla bla) and just listen. You could not hear a word from her song, no matter how well written or lyrical the song is, they just sound like whispers. No one is going to google lyrics of your song just because of good visual arts.
    - Not to mention the first half of the song contained less than 5 notes, no melody at all, just playing with beats and rhythm. All the credits to the producer for making it reasonably bearable to listen to. No chord progression whatsoever except the end part when it picks up a little.

    And to quote from the article (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/11192852/Why-none-of-these-albums-deserves-to-win-the-Mercury-Prize.html) by Neil McCormick, who published this way before the Mercury Awards winner was announced.".. Who amongst them is making a sound that defines this moment in time? Which of these albums has the kind of depth, adventure, spirit and unassailably brilliant songs to create a consensus amongst critics and fans that it does, indeed, deserve to be hailed as the most inspiring and substantial work of the past year in popular music? Because if there really was anything that great here, you'd think we would have noticed by now. FKA Twigs 'LP1' - I expect FKA Twigs to win. Her album has a narcotic sensuality that is a current favourite template of R'n'B, where everything is kept low down and atmospheric. But I've listened to it quite often and I couldn't hum a tune off it to save my life. It is like ambient music with a faint pulse."

    There you go, expert opinion. Not biased at all. Regarding her performance since she was hotly contended to be the winner (no surprise there Kate Tempest was in the lead before, BUT right after the Handing Holding Operation from Rob came about in Europe, T suddenly overtook the main contender to expect to win). In the end neither KT or T win and it went to Young Fathers.

    I do admit she can dance, after all she is trained in that professionally, banking on her to be a superstar is going to be a big stretch, she is a performing artiste after all, without the visuals, the well-choreographed music videos, special effects and fancy beats, she couldn’t hold her own if given a microphone to just hum a ring-tone. But I have to give her some credit on the rather well performed cover rendition of Sam Smith’s Stay with me on BBC some time ago.

    Another lengthy post, sorry to offend the majority of the people here if I over discussed this woman. I do not call her any names but for an artiste to use the popularity and fame of a married man to create a false romance to further your career just says so much about your own art and credibility.

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  75. I just watched the twigs performance last night on youtube. Jimmy didn't cut in on her early. She finished her song and he went to commercial. That being said, he should have. I am the first to admit that I don't understand music these days. I am 58 years old and have heard my share of bad music. Her problem seems to be that she has no voice. I couldn't understand the lyrics not one word. Made no sense to me. You would think that she would have done a better job since it was her debut BUT it do one thing here. It got us talking about her unfortunately when we promised not to. That being said, I will not say another thing more about her

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  76. Hi HKN!
    Awesome post! And loved it!!
    And thank you!! It's much appreciated!!

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  77. Sanni, Rob was with Dean at the airport. Dean is almost always with him.

    BTW don't be surprised but I knew of the Cli Fi awards and what they stood for. This news was first mentioned weeks ago. Very reputable not just Hollywood. Panel consists of educated people who take notice of the environment etc. Quite an honour.

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  78. Hey y'all. Crazy day filled with many demands for me and my time.

    You know what I'm far more interested in? The fact that we get to see Kris very soon!! She's a classy, independent woman who has an abundance of incredible talent. Rob is so very lucky to have her as his wife. Sweet Pea has a great mom and dad.

    Rob and Kris are my heart, and I support them in everything they do. But, tbh, this situation is getting old very fast. Since we know it's nothing more than business, I'm ready to move on.

    Love to you all.

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    1. Gigi, Please don't leave. I love having you here. I support them both too. I always support Rob and Kristen.

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  79. @andreana..I agree with you 100 %. I feel the exact same way.

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  80. Sue, no, Kristen is not expected in nyc on Friday. It's a private Academy screening, there has already been 5 or 6 of them in LA, SF and nyc and there are still many more. She hasn't attended any of them so I don't know why people expect her to go to one now. Especially since she has the AFI round table in LA on Sunday. It makes no sense for her to go to nyc for a screening and then come right back home.

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  81. SHAMROCKER, I thought someone said she would be there, but you are right, it really does not make sense to make a overnight trip like that. I think she will have a busy calendar without the Academy screening this month. I really am anxious to see Still Alice, such a great cast and story. Susie

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  82. Ladies,

    Just a word. I love music. All types of music. From Les Mes to Rolling Stones. But really? The music bends the ear. It's endless noise. I Did not watch the performance last night because I did't want to. It would have been a waste of my good time.

    Based on what I have been reading on the net, there is tremendous resentment for "this person" who seems to feel "entitled" based on who she knows. No dues to pay. Just hold PRberto's hand.

    Her music is fringe. An epic fail.

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  83. PS

    One other point I wanted to make last evening. Why did Google launch her "promotional video" with a nothing. Not even a whisper! Why would they be silent about promoting their product, Google Glasses.

    And for those of you who are among the very young. You cannot develop any level of success based on a foundation of lies and deception. Just sayin.

    Peace!!

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  84. Good night to Morning Coffee, HKN, Sherry, Gigi, sue morris, and to the rest of Havens! I am still here. I was job hunting today, having dinner with my family, and just got done watching CMA! I love all your comments everyone! Keep up the good job. Love you all! Night everyone! Hugs!

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  85. Good Morning, Really do think we need to focus on Kristen and Rob's movies for the weekend and I just keep remembering, everybody has their own opinions, and we know where that comment goes! Hopefully, Sunday's round table will be amazing with all those talented people there and life goes on ! Have a great day Haven, going out the door to take daughter to doctor. Much love, Susie

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  86. Kathy
    Thanks not trying to rock the boat..I just don't understand everything that is going on...still an Rkian just hoping for the best outcome...trying to be honest

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  87. Sookie pattinson
    I am with you...I will never listen to that noise..and I will not mention her name..

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  88. Morning all.
    Andreana: I know it seems difficult to be positive right now but hang in there ok. :)

    Rainy day here.

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  89. Good morning to all the Havenettes! I am just woke up. Ok, where is everyone? What is going on here?

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  90. Morning Ladies...

    Things are going to get worse before they get better...hold on to whatever faith you have ever had in R/K and keep them in your prayers..

    If you have to step away until we have good things to talk about..I have it on good authority things aren't what they appear to be..it is just business even even some of you are starting to doubt..I can not and will not say more than that...

    I wish you each a good day...

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  91. hello together
    how are all!
    we stick to our faith and know.

    MC what do you mean Things are going to get worse?
    does not sound good, and nothing for weak nerves

    beautiful day. hugs

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  92. Just popping in to say hello to the Haven been real busy with RL issues some good some bad some happy some sad, weekend upon us again so Rob, Kristen where ever you are supporting you both, so sending ove and hugs to you all take care be safe, Hkn and Mama Nails fantastic job your doing.

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  93. Hi MC and all, I'm firmly sticking to my belief that RK are fine even though I'm not happy with the developments...

    Not much to say about it all, that's why i'm mainly silent and since the trolls are kept at bay, I don't need to post too often but as I said I'm definitely not worried... just annoyed...

    Getting cold here! Winter's coming...

    Have a nice day Havenettes!

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  94. Sanni...I meant what I said..simply put things will continue to look bad for a while longer for business reasons...

    if you have to walk away for a while do so....and come back when things are quiet once again...

    I can not and will not answer more than that..all is well for R/K.

    the other is an investment plain and simple..no matter how hard the rags and haters try you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear...

    No more questions need be asked you now know all you need to know...

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  95. New york Annie...
    Thanks for the encouargement....I am in limbo..one part of me says who cares who rob is with and the other half says don't give up..its different at different times of the day...lol
    All I can say for sure is I don't know who that person is in those toronto pictures..That is not the same person I have adored for 5+ years..I just hope whatever the truth is that kristen is happy..that will make everything ok for me...I want nothing more than them ...together...but I don't get a vote on that.

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  96. Good morning to HKN, ASFJ, JMF, Sherry, Gigi, Happygirl, Tina, Merle, Martha, Annie, Morning Coffee, and to all the Havenettes! I am on my way to my job interview at Ihopresent right now. Keep me posted. Hugs! Wish me luck and prayers.

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  97. Hi all. Boring but busy week for me. Oh, and this week's Rob pics: boring too. Morning Coffee, you said it all. See you all soon.

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  98. Hello to all the Havenettes! Woohoo! I got the job. I start Monday at 9 am orientation. I will be working in the daytime. Dinner time at the Sizzlers.

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  99. Arleen - wishing you good luck on your job interview! It is great that you never give up.

    Rob spent time with Dakota and Jamie while he was in NYC. We all know Dakota and Kristen are best friends. I still believe in Rob and Kristen are together with their baby daughter.

    MC, Gigi, HKN, MN, Annie - Love your encouraging messages and warnings....

    Love and hugs to all Havenettes

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  100. Hey ladies! Arleen, I'm not going anywhere and hope you get he job.

    There isn't a single, valid reason for thinking that Rob and Kris are having any trouble. Rob is playing a part. To me this is no different than a role in a movie.

    Can't wait to see Kris in a few days.

    Love to you all.

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  101. Morning coffee,I think there are people who believe Kristen and Rob are together but are disturbed to imagine Rob getting involved in a PR stunt because it sounds totally out of character. Because it could backfire on him. Because an actor who wants to be taken seriously might lose some credibility. Because how will he explain it when the world will know about his true situation? So Yes I hope he has already thought about it. But I'm only worried for Rob. Kristen is fine and will be fine. Actually as long as fans and haters are focused on Rob, for once, we're not hearing one bad word on Kristen. And I firmly believe that's exactly what Rob wanted. No one can make me change my mind.

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  102. Hi everyone! Ok, Where is everyone? I hope you all are ok. I wanted to share my good news. I got the job at Ihop. I will be working in the daytime. Just because I have a job doesn't mean I am leaving. I am not leaving here. I am staying right here. I love you all. Please respond.

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  103. andreana -- Hi!! Not going to argue or try to sway you but can I ask you a couple of questions?

    1. Would the Kristen that you know & love (we all do) wear her Ex's shirt/sweater to NYC on 10/4 (media said it was 10/5 but we know better) for ALL the world to see? I just don't think that the KS I know & love would EVER do such a thing. And I don't think she would be so oblivious to just pick something out of a drawer that she hadn't worn in awhile & not realize that Rob had worn it. It's not like she can't replace everything & give away old stuff.

    2. Do we really think that Rob would be so disrespectful as to wear something that K gave him or had recently worn (the gray beanie) to wear it with another person he's involved with? (business excluded) And the next day was wearing his Balenciaga shoes that K had given him. Again, I doubt either would be so disrespectful towards the other.

    3. Last but not least ... it appears to be a badly kept secret that R&K traveled to Paris together a few days before R showed up there for T's opening. If that's true, they were there for only a very short time ... just long enough to "setup" the whole thing with the Harmony store, etc. & where would the paps vantage point be, etc.??

    IMO, Wifey Kristen is just as involved in this as Rob is. Whether we like it or not!!! SHOWBIZ!!!

    LIZ IN LALA LAND --- CRUISING ... ON THE "SS DELUSIONAL DREAM" ... hey, I don't mind being called delusional ... PATIENCE PEOPLE!!!

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  104. MORNING COFFEE -- I think you are SO RIGHT!! We've not seen the end of this. Personally, I believe he'll attend just one or two concerts to help sell out the rest of her tour. JMO ...

    So yes, I really believe more pics will be in order.

    LIZ IN LALA LAND -- CRUISING ON THE "SS DELUSIONAL DREAM" for anyone who wants to join me ... fun for all!!

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  105. Mickeymackey -- If you had been able to understand T's lyrics, she wouldn't have been on NBC. Just the truth.

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  106. Morning Coffee,
    I believe. I just read hear and Mama Nails. I just laugh at the articles on the net. They just spent how many days missing in action together. Thank you for being so reassuring. Roman for life. Is the rumor true about a tell all for r and k?

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  107. Morning Coffee,

    Thanks for being the voice of reassurance. I believe in them . They were just missing in action together. I believe in you and h k n and Mama Nails.

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  108. Arleen, that's wonderful news! Congratulations. When I see a commercial for IHOP I'll think of you.

    Lizzie, I'm on this ship permanently. Nothing and no one can change my mind about their relationship. Until either one officially comes out and says that they're in a relationship with ---, then I'll happily believe and have faith.

    I made some cookie brownies from a box mix and my husband grilled some chicken. Anybody want to come over?

    Love to you all.

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  109. Wanted to make sure to stop by & say a big thank you to Morning Coffee & the kind words you have left on my tumblr posts.......means a lot!!! Sending you a big (HUG)!!!!
    A tidbit on pineapple express' tour here....there are 19 from what I have seen and ALL of them but 4 are sold out.....most were sold out before anything with R came out. Slightly embarrassed that I know that....but anyway.

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  110. Good Morning all! TGIF! Work is kicking my arse!!!
    MC "Silk purse out of a sows ear"! PMSL! Brilliant!
    I'm still on the R&K boat, I just chose to believe that Rob is "Filming" atm and this will all make sense when his "movie" comes out! That's how I'm getting through this!
    Gigi so happy your that you guys now have direction for your daughter.
    Andreana hang in there.
    Arleen love the Zombie Avatar! Hope the hip feels better soon. Woo Hoo on the job! Great effort!
    ASFJ - Hey!
    Annie any jokes for the day?
    Lizzie D I like your thinking!.
    Love to all..

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  111. Lizzie D
    Lol you can always ask me any questions you like...I am not anti Rob...I have adored him quite a while now....I want them to be together more than I can say...I feel like its pretty far fetched to say this is all just PR...hand holding is intimate...he could be helping her with her career without the hands interlocked..don't you think.?..I have a hard time with that..its a sticking point...I have read that people say R/k were together in paris. But its only been hearsay..I hear stuff all the time and you are right I see the clothes shared...but this contact and travel are something I cannot push away by saying he is trying to help her career..it just does not make sense...I am completely perplexed by the whole thing...I am waiting it out...hoping for the best and bracing myself in case the worst happens..I have no idea what is true anymore..

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  112. irie deb - what's your Tumblr handle?

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  113. Lazmeister.........Hahahahaha. :)

    AFTER BEING MARRIED FOR 44 YEARS, I TOOK A
    CAREFUL LOOK AT MY WIFE ONE DAY AND SAID,
    "Darling, 44 YEARS AGO WE HAD A CHEAP APARTMENT,
    A CHEAP CAR, SLEPT ON A SOFA BED AND WATCHED
    A 10-INCH BLACK AND WHITE TV, BUT I GOT TO SLEEP
    EVERY NIGHT WITH A HOT 25-YEAR-OLD GIRL.
    NOW I HAVE A $500,000.00 HOME, A $45,000.00 CAR,
    NICE BIG BED AND PLASMA SCREEN TV, BUT I'M SLEEPING
    WITH A 65-YEAR-OLD WOMAN. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT
    YOU'RE NOT HOLDING UP YOUR SIDE OF THINGS."

    MY WIFE IS A VERY REASONABLE WOMAN. SHE TOLD
    ME TO GO OUT AND FIND A HOT 25-YEAR-OLD GAL,
    AND SHE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT I WOULD ONCE
    AGAIN BE LIVING IN A CHEAP APARTMENT, DRIVING
    A CHEAP CAR, SLEEPING ON A SOFA BED AND WATCHING
    A 10-INCH BLACK AND WHITE TV.

    :):):):)

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  115. Hi Havenettes and HKN!
    I decided I am staying on this ship. I will not jump ship until Kristen starts holding some guy's hand.
    BTW thanks again Morning Coffee for the chick pea muffins. I have them every morning and they are delicious!

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  116. you are so right LizzieD. Also, just watched the video and I immediately was called to remember another routine - Julia Stiles in Save the Last Dance and when she auditioned for Julliard. Looked very similar. Hope that wasn't where she got her inspiration. If it was she should probably apologize to Ms. Stiles.

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  117. http://concertfix.com/tours/fka-twigs

    This is the site I was looking at that still shows tix. Sorry for the confusion, this site probably is out of date.

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  118. andreana -- Thanks for your nice comment. I don't believe in "beating people up" just because they've lost faith. Hoping you'll get it back sometime soon. RK have always been unpredictable & nothing seems to have changed, LOL.

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  119. Annie - LOL! Thanks!
    Hi RaeH on HKN! I did find her explanation very interesting to say the least!

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  121. Rae A concerning what you just addressed about Rob,branch and Google glass how does this tie Rob to Branch together. And what does google glass has to do with it. Where did Andromeda find this information out. And why is there risks involved where is the link so I can view it.

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  122. To Lazmeister
    Thank you for asking about a link to my tumblr page... I hope I post this right.......
    http://chiburkie.tumblr.com/post/101873318045/oo-thank-you-for-being-my-friend-o-o-o
    I hope it works for you.

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  123. I hope you all do not think I am batty, but I think the hand holding is an idea that has come from Kristen. Rob has some truly weird women that both R and K wish to remove from their lives. They threaten Kristen and Rob and others and have for about seven years now. One lady was going to shoot Kristen during the Twilight series, and now that they are married and have a baby, I believe they want to convince Rob has moved on to new women. This is not my idea, but it makes sense to muddy the waters with a new person and advertise her, at the same time. I do think they, RK, are trying to recover monies expended and make a bit of a star of branches. I think B is frightened and has been shown just how crazy that neurotic people can be. To me, the whole thing is NUTS, but their inability to move around normally is something that would drive a sane person NUTS. Lizzie, I love you. Arleen, you have won the prize as the most consistent and hardworking lady I know, big hugs! Morning Coffee, we know the Pattinsons are fine, lets just cross our fingers the curious and odd Rob the image maker has his head screwed on straight, and can somehow pull the impossible and have success with the RK plan. Rae, I was aware of some dealings also, I hope in 2015 Rob sticks to acting or directing. He does have a headache and so does Kristen. I think that is why I was so angry with branch to begin with. But, I also think she is responsible if she does not act (the branch)professionally. Both Rob and Kristen are professionals and work hard to please their fans. Somehow their personal life was opened up and because they had to close it down, the so-called fans have simply gone berserk. I would call it, a very large and global temper tantrum, because they no longer could follow their lives. Well, Roberto the Creative Image maker is putting himself out there on the block, and I think they are writing the narrative on the go. Kristen and Rob will come out smelling like a rose, I really believe they are fine and this is a challenge. Kristen and Rob, please stay out of the way of idiots. You cannot always control the client who will not discipline themself. I have owned two companies, and sold both, after some fair profit margin. Life is a continuous test pattern and we set the margins up with doable time sequences. Wishing everyone a happy and peaceful evening. Susie

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  124. Hey girls...

    first Arleen congratualtions sweet girl, so proud of you..wish I had half your energy...

    Irie Deb...the thing we do not know is how big are the venues..Europes tour venues were very small..It's not like she is appearing at Madison square garden..your posts are always inspiringand filled with common sense...

    I wrote a post today on faith I will try to get it here from my tumbler but the copy and paste didn't work well last time..and I really am not computer savvy...

    Madeline...happy to hear the muffins were a hit..don't be afraid to play with the extracts you can even add chopped dried fruit or chopped nuts for variety...

    Rae H..will check out Andromedas comment..

    mary french not sure about a tell all...hang in for a while...

    Gigi love your positive vibes.



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  125. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

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  126. Ladies here's the post.

    Where do you place your faith?

    This message is for all of us who still believe that no matter how crazy things look from the outside, those on the inside know the true story…Keep in mind it is not for us to know everything..

    However having said this, let’s concentrate on what we do know that is taking place. We know everything that we have witnessed, read and seen with our own eyes over the last six years with Rob and Kristen…We know that love like theirs doesn’t come along very often, love so obvious that everyone who cares to be honest can’t deny it’s existence.

    A group of us people and that is quite a large group know that Rob and Kristen are married and yes, they do have a baby girl…We never crammed this down anyone’s throat. Every person is free to believe it or not, it won’t change things one way or the other..

    Rob and Kristen together have entered a business venture that looks like it may not be working out real well for them financially it may become a very large and expensive lesson in what and who to invest in for any business ventures down the road.

    Now then having said that..the gossip magazines, gossip blogs, trolls and haters would have us all believe that Rob has suddenly lost his mind and has taken up romantically with his business venture. That would indicate that everything Rob has ever said and ever done has been a complete lie from day one..Do you really think so little of this gentle and loving soul??

    Has your faith in Rob completely died? We all know how things can be made into mountains from a pebble in this “fan base”..there are motives as to why..have been since the release of the Twilight movie…Simply put hatred of Kristen Jaymes Stewart..They would rejoice in Rob’s hookup with anyone other than Kristen, anyone or anything…

    The past six years have seen a concerted effort to destroy Kristen’s credibility as a viable partner for Rob, It made no difference that he loves her. If they could shine a spotlight on how bad she was for him, how she has no talent, she never smiles, she has no facial expression, she’s dirty, she’s ugly, she doesn’t comb her hair, she can’t act, she cheated with a married man, she’s a lesbian, she’s dating Alicia, no she’s dating Nick Hoult..She’s washed up in Hollywood, she’ll never make another film….

    Really? The haters seem very positive of their facts…all of whaich they get from the gossip magazines and blogs..and we all know how they are each the pinnacle of truth…

    There are horrible stories circulating around the tabs and blogs at the moment, how Kristen deserves Rob walking away, how he has never looked happier..I call BULLSHIT on it all..

    This is the fabrication of petty minds and souls that have turned black with hate. I ask at this time for all of us who believe in Rob and Kristen, who haven’t fallen for the lies, to keep the faith in everything we know and to pray for the safety and security of Rob, Kristen and their family. Remember also it’s always the darkest just before the dawn..Hold on to everything you know to be true about both Rob and Kristen…a day of reckoning is coming.

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  127. LizzieD

    I haven't lost faith .....yet ....I still hanging on by one hand...hkn may want me to walk the plank at some point but I'm still holding on for now..lol. have a good nite..

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  128. Arleen - Congrats on the new job... try not to overtax yourself and get a good night rest.

    Gigi - Love brownies and grilled chicken so I will be over with tossed green salad and keep the grill hot for grilling fresh asparagus!

    Annie - Thank you for the great laugh! It is much needed!

    LizzieD - Thank you for updated information re: Rob and Kristen and etc.

    Nightie nite to the ladies of Havenettes... sweet dreams.

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  129. @andreana...you aren't alone in how you feel. Sometimes it's hard to believe like everyone else. Don't give up.

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  130. Morning Coffee, You wrote a really beautiful and very truthful comment just now and I agree completely. I believe that Rob and Kristen Pattinson are a very strong and beautiful couple who were very fortunate to find each other so early in their young lives. They do have problems as we all do and just like any normal couple will have to work through problems together. I still think they will come through well in this business venture, and are learning from the experience. Gigi, your dinner sounds delicious. Lizzie, so good to hear from you! Arlene, please get lots of rest! Love, Susie

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  131. Hi ladies.
    Arleen, congrats on the job. You rock!

    As for all this crap, I'm waiting it out. This whole mess may turn out to be something else all together. My money is on punking the paps and rags. I'm all for that. Just keep the faith. It's easier to jump overboard then to stay with the ship when it is sailing through a storm. I'm sticking with this ship.

    Have a great weekend. Love you all.

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  132. Yay Irie deb I'm already following you!
    MC - what a brilliant post!
    RaeH Thanks for the explanation!

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  133. Hello to all the Havens and HKN! I just got done with cleaning my kitchen. Now I am ready for bed. Thank you all for Congrats and have faith in me.
    Morning Coffee, I always have faith in Rob and Kristen. I haven't given up on them. They are my favorite people and so does all of you!
    Well I am going to bed now. Keep me posted.
    Sue, I am getting my rest now. I even rake the leaves. And getting things done around my house plus I did my tutoring. I love tutoring these kids. I love helping them with their reading. One of them is doing great. In my book they are doing great in their reading. In my heart they will get there. Because I believe in them. I always have.
    Anyways, Well night to you all. Love you all! Hugs!

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  134. Uber facts said a study proved that a woman who eats bananas on the day of conception will have a boy. Some info for Kris and Rob.

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  135. Dropping in before bed. Asparagus sounds yummy, Merle! Bring some on over.

    MC, that post was outstanding and epic. I prefer to stay positive b/c no one tells you that you have to have a bad attitude. Sometimes it's not what happens to you but how you react to your circumstances.

    We're thrilled about our daughter's future, Laz, and hope we can pass that on to her

    Irie Deb, your blog is one of my favorites! The posts are a breath of fresh air. Love how your present your thoughts in a common sense manner. Keep up the great work.

    Friday is on it's way ladies. I'm sure that all is well for Rob and Kris. He's simply taking care of business.

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  136. Ladies, HKN

    "A relationship is pure, private, intimate and not a show"- Tempest. You must read the new post. When ever I am reading Tempest"s blog, I always feel as if she is reading her post to me personally. Her words always seem to be holding up the weight of the world. I feel so comforted.

    Geez. we have made it through another week girls.

    I have found that since I stop viewing those photos, as some suggested; I feel less stress about it. It's like getting home from work and you hurry in to take off that girdle/spanx and put on those sweats. I feel freer! Try it!

    Peace!

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  137. HKN
    Great post as usual.

    Wanted to say Hi, Havennettes!
    I had being MIA because I'm a month away from having my baby girl so busy and tired but I always read and lurk and I will believe until there is undeniable proof that RK are moved on from each other. This particular incident is not that proof.

    @Arleen wanted to congratulate you again.


    I wanted to add that aside from the investment, this also is a good way to avoid the haters trying to boycott Kristen's chances for an Oscar. I'm sure that if they were planning to come out as a family, the fact that Sony communicated their plan to push for a nomination for Kris and they decided that the haters needed a new target. I think this will last at the very least until January and if Kris gets the nom they might keep it until the ceremony. Just my two cents.

    Hang in there Havennettes.

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  138. @Morning Coffee. Bravo!Bravo! What a stunning post,
    "I ask at this time for all of us who believe in Rob and Kristen, who haven’t fallen for the lies, to keep the faith in everything we know and to pray for the safety and security of Rob, Kristen and their family. Remember also it’s always the darkest just before the dawn..Hold on to everything you know to be true about both Rob and."

    Stunning, just stunning. xxxxx

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  139. As weird as it may be, I feel like the more pictures of Rob & Twigs come out, the more abundantly clear it's made that this is PR. At this point, they're not even trying to convince anyone that they're together. It seems to only be about exposure. I honestly feel like while the original plan was to get Twigs in the same "frame" as Rob to create a buzz, I don't think it was supposed to go as far as "hand-holding."

    I keep thinking about the very first set of photos when Rob was with his friends and Twigs was following behind. The rags did what they always did whenever R is within 2 feet of another female--linked them together. R&Co knew that was to be expected. But what makes Twigs different from the other women Rob has been linked to is that--like you've all been saying--there's an investment. Him just being seen with her & a group of friends would not grant her the level of exposure she would need if she wants to make waves in the US. Think about it: we all wrote her off. "Another rag story trying to hook up Rob with someone else. What else is new?" The minute those questionable "hand-holding" photos came out, we were confused--even if the pictures looked photo-shoppy as hell, it was enough to generate madness. I think the reaction of the fandom is what really set this sailing in the direction it's in now. R & Co ran with this, and then suddenly we get pictures of Rob & Twigs where there's no question of photoshop or if it's really Rob. To me, it seems like a gigantic snowball.

    This is just my opinion. I could very well be wrong but I've done my very best to look at this whole thing objectively and I've got to say: the way this whole thing has been laid out really does scream PR. It's blatant. Anyone actually willing to look beyond face-value will see this for what it really is.

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  140. @Songsofsyren

    I agree it's PR. My question is why is Rob in this PR relationship? Why him? And why did he agree? You can confirm in the WME website that T is repped by WME, the same company as Rob. So for those thinking that Rob bankrolled her tour, I don't think he did. I think WME is the one who has fiAnancial investment in her. I think it's more logical to think that WME asked Rob to help promote her, which he could easily have done by just attending one of her concerts like Adele did.. The hand-holding is throwing me off. Why he agreed, I have no idea.

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  141. I also posted earlier that I think that this is strictly Rob's deal and that Kristen is not involved in any capacity. She may know about it but she has no investment in it. I say this because from a transactional and legal standpoint, given that Kristen has her own legal team separate from Rob, she would not enter into any kind of investment without seeking legal or corporate/financial advice from them, and they would have told her this is a VERY BAD investment given that T's album is coming out just two months away from Taylor Swift's album and that alone should tell anyone with who went through 1st grade math that Taylor Swift will blow her out of oblivion. Besides, when Kristen Supports an artist, she is very present and visible with her support. She used to support Sam Bradley by going to his concerts. She did a music video for Marcus Foster, Jenny Lewis, and Sage. When Kristen supports something, you will SEE her supporting it. She is absent on this one so I don't think she's involved at all.

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  142. Rogue, I think he agreed because they asked, he's a nice guy and he is getting paid to do this. Plus he is supposed to have invested some money too. We are all forgetting that this is Hollywwod. Smoke and mirrors, my friends. Smoke and mirrors. Just like a magician he has us looking in the wrong direction. It's called misdirection. Rob has always put himself between the hate and Kristen. This time he has more to protect, a wife and baby.

    I understand the confusion. Just think of this as one very long illusion. When the smoke clears and the act is over, we will then know what this was about. I'm hoping for the rags and paps to look like the lying garbage heap they are. The rags and paps say what they do is entertainment. Entertainment my rear end. It's mean, cruel and down right evil. I hope they get shown for the scum that they are.

    Okay. I feel better since I got that out of my system. It's Friday! Have a good day and a better weekend. I have all three grandsons on Saturday. Looking forward to having lots of fun with them. By the way, hubs is doing amazingly well. Feels great and is walking better then he ever has. We will be going in December to get him set up for kidney transplant list. Thanks for your thoughts and prayers. You are all always in mine. The one thing RK have done is bring this wonderful bunch together. Sometimes I feel like we are the wolves joining the Cullen's to fight the Volturi. That's just fine with me. It's never easy being on the side of truth. Just glad I have all of you standing there with me.

    Love you all.

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  143. @Like I said, and this is just my opinion given that T is listed under the roster of WME, that I think WME is the one bankrolling her. Besides, why Rob would invest money on her instead of his musician friends who are begging from fans for financial support online? This makes me think that he has no financial stake in her, otherwise he would give to his musician friends first so they don't have to beg online. I agree that WME may have asked him to help promote her and he was kind enough to agree, he could do that by just attending her concerts. But the handholding and traveling all over Europe is confusing. If it is revealed later on that he is married while he was doing all this, wouldn't that put his integrity at stake? Never mind the public, when the child is old enough to read and she or her classmates googled her father, wouldn't that put his kid at risk of being humiliated? Do you think Kristen,as the mom, will allow this to happen? Kristen is not repped by WME. She's under Gersh.

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  144. good Morning
    Morning Coffee nice post and kind words
    @ Andreana I agree with you, it's all confusing. But keep believing , even if it is hard sometimes, so it is with me
    then actually help encouraging post from all here.
    Holding hands is an intimate matter between two loving persons
    I think it was a short circuit reaction and he must now continue.
    And I can not imagine how this PR love is cleared .
    At all alleged Dates, never had to see a close intimate body contact.
    And was easy to create from the world, but now ....

    It Should be photos from kristen and rob together, and on wish not yet been published ??? perhaps

    At least there is currently no photos that he is at this woman and at yesterday's concert.
    maybe he's back with his wife and child. and visited only a few locations

    I keep my faith in rob and kristen fixed
    and hope that it will not be long until the truth comes to light.

    Nice day. love you and your comments. hugs

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  145. Good morning!

    What Rob is doing is not doing a favor though there may be some of that in a minor way, and it isn't at the behest of WME. He is indeed investing, both he and Kristen have turned to music this year between films. Also, when the child eventually googles, if googling is still done then, this will be one overblown storyline out of hundreds; she will find her father already is supposed to have been married nine times and had 100 GFS and 20 possible kids, she will see the staged pics, she will have none of the worries people are processing lately. She will know her parents' character intimately, and they are excellent people.

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  146. Morning.
    Because of some in this fandom and the tabloids, Rob's child will be reading for example that her father is amobg other things.....gay, a drug addict, a womanizer, an abuser, a user and a bunch of other unflattering names.
    Shit! What's one more to add to the list!

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  147. Many married couples invest in projects separately but are supportive in other ways. :):):):)

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  148. Too true, Annie! Come on, he has to have been outed as an alien by now, also....

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  149. @Annie, the other tab stories have no material evidence whereas the one with T has repeated pictures of hand holding from LA to across Europe to Toronto where Rob is front and center in all pics. Anyway, this has been confusing for me too and right now, it's a wait and see for all of us. For how long? No one seems to know.

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  150. Sherry, I like the way you think. I believe Rob is doing a fantastic job at directing hate at him when Kristen is just shining. I also think media will look stupid at the end. I picture Rob saying:I just wanted to show that media know nothing and lie all the time.
    Rogue, I agree with you. Unless someone comes to say I know Kristen is involved, I don't see it. A couple can be married and have separate business. She sure knows but I don't think she put her money in that.
    SongsofSyren, I think that You're right when you said it was not supposed to go that far.
    a stargazzer, I think your point on the Oscars is pretty accurate. Nice to read the board this morning.

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  151. the tour is finished in december
    and then we will see more, he will be back with woman and child.
    should give it pictures of Kristen and rob we will see it
    I think celebrity children are then brought up that crap on the internet can be
    but the little girl is 7 months

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  152. Rogue: Handholding and what else?
    Shit! In some of those pics, Rob looks so fucking bored.
    I suggest we all just wait and see......,
    Good things come to those who wait and may i add.....Those who wait and not feel a need to jump to hasty conclusions.

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  153. Good Morning to each of the ladies here at the Haven...

    It's obvious each one has their very own theory, I am also thinking someday we will all know the exact details of the whys and so on..

    All I know is that I am entirely confident in Rob and Kristen they are still together and in love...I don't really care who thinks they aren't, it won't change my mind at all.

    When Rob and Kristen come forward and say it's over I will believe them...Till then I am not buying any others in their lives....

    It's known as having faith in the people we know Rob and Kristen to be..and not the two people created by gossip mongers and haters of either or both.

    2012 should have proven beyond a doubt you can not believe everything you hear and sometimes as in 2012 not even what you think you see..

    Hugs to each of you...

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  154. Roger and SongsofSyren, I wish I could put up a ‘like’ in your comments. The Taylor Swift remark gave me a good chuckle!
    Why is Rob doing it? Well, I think to throw the fandom into a frenzy of conflicting and mixed information.
    All aspects of the fandom will be given something. To the robssessed, they can continue to fuel their fantasy and objectify him as a sex object, not to mention a ‘serve her right’ to the Kristen who supposedly cheated on their precious Rob. To the Krisbians, it is good riddance to Rob for hoarding their Queen and continues their illusion that one day Kristen will ‘come-out’ for them. The hardest hit are the Robsten (a big portion of those we are all).Yes, theirs is an epic romance on-screen and off. They have already given us their chemistry documented in films and carried on with a 5-movies saga bringing in billions to Summit and the industry. Has ANY couple in Hollywood ever done that? All this comes with a big price, and the two people who are paying for these most are Kristen and Robert (and not to mention their circle of friends and relatives). The loss of privacy is a very high price to pay, not to mention freedom of movement, God forbid that happens to their child too. That will be the most hounded child ever (outside Prince George). I would not want that for any child to be under that microscope. We already know how their parents’ are hounded and hunted.

    << I am sorry guys I have to direct you to my newly setup tumblr>> Just realised this is getting too lengthy and analytical for some people. Those who want to read those opinions please head on to http://buddaimond.tumblr.com/

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  155. So where is Rob. Did he go on tour with branch. Just asking.

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  156. Lol Holidays?! And come on now 2 months? Really

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  157. Good morning to all the Havens and HKN! Happy Friday to all!
    a stargazzer, Thank you!
    I got alot of things today. Starting with my laundry and the rest of my chores. Then I am all yours.

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  158. Hope he was at 04 in NY
    where is he now? In LA or NY
    kristen maybe even there ?! hmm
    but no pictures from rob of the concert yesterday
    So PR PR PR
    but enjoy your time of jubilation
    it will soon be over for you

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  159. I don't think Rob necessarily bankrolled the tour, but I do believe he still has some financial ties to her. I don't think it's just a matter of 'promoting' her because--like you said--that could be done just as easily with him just going to her concert. But, in doing so, she would have never garnered nearly as much attention as she has now being associated with Rob 'romantically.' And, really, this is what further leads me to believe that he's involved with her business-wise. I don't see Rob going this far with the whole thing just out of the goodness of his heart.

    This could very well be Rob's own little side project, so could be right that K may not be a key player in backing Twigs. But, I could see it going either way, too. While it wouldn't hurt to have K "seen" supporting Twigs, focus would be more on the R&K connection and less on the artist. Rob, alone, is enough, really. They wouldn't need K in that aspect. Again, just speculation, though.

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  160. if that woman is his one and all, do you mean where he now has time he would leave them alone from place to place?
    No because he spends with kristen and baby every free minute
    In LA or NY.
    We will get back PR images, then, if this woman has her 2 concerts in NY
    unless the concerts are sold out then this woman needs no PR

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  161. I see our troll is back. R is MIA right now and that must be scare our trolls,

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  162. Hope and kristen is never far away lol
    Personally, phone, Skype
    PR PR PR Rob and this woman

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  163. Happygirl Yes Rob since the 04 mia and not visible at the concert lol

    and kristen Mia oje

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  164. but is good if sold out
    then rob has done a good PR work
    and he can early stage again to wife and child

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  165. Too true. I remember the first picture of Rob and Twigs in August, he couldn't have been further away from her if he tried, she was trailing behind him and lot of people confirmed that there were several of them walking together that day. Suddenly the Tabs picked her out as maybe being his new GF (like they always do for every girl he stands next too) less than a month after they are shopping in Paris etc. If that is not playing a game i don't know what is.

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  166. Hope why wasn't he at her concert last night why wait in NY. Didn't he go all the way to Europe with her on her tour why not Washington. We all know he goes home to London for Christmas every year that is not a surprise. He has free time now so why was he not with her last night. We really don't know where he is do we.

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  167. Just saw an article headline "FKA Twigs Sees Career Soar, Doesn't Leave Much Time For Robert Pattinson Romance", it says that she's touring so much and he is working so they will not be seeing each other(yada yada). The "set up" for the break up has started already.

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  168. nello1418 lol because everyone knew that it is PR
    comes earlier than expected

    now we know why Hope is so nervous


    Kristen has not even dates in NY?

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  169. Yes That's why he prefer to spent time with K's BFF Dakota while T was in NY before her tour and he doesn't even invited T. LOL

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  170. Hope, even if she was only gone for a day he could have gone. You are so right no pictures yet of the concert. And he does have friends in NY. But why spend time with Kris friend Dakota. If he is so in love with her I'm quite sure he could have taken her around Jamie his friend and Dakota.

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  171. Hello HKN and ladies of the haven.
    You all are discussing this and Do I
    Dazzle You is not. While you were discussing a thought occurred to me.
    What if Andromeda's comment on Google Glass and the Rob/Twigs PR thing outed the plan and made further appearances by Rob and Twigs together of non effect. After all by my reckoning between five and nine million read DIDY, HKN, and Mama Nails; and no one group gossips like Rob and Kristen fans the people who will hear of this will grow exponentially, I think.

    Then this morning we suddenly hear FKA Twigs career is soaring and she won't have time for Robert Pattinson's Romance. Now we also hear Rob is a no show at her concert. Instead he spent his time not far away with Dakota and Jamie.

    I'm not saying this is what happened. But wouldn't it be cool if that was what happened?

    I wonder if they are both relieved it's over or vexed with us crazy fans. The article on Google Glass is there for anyone to see. We just couldn't buy Rob and Twigs as anything but PR. Plus there'sa lot of us and we're all smart and slightly nutty over Rob and Kristen.

    I don't know about you ladies but I am waiting to hear the gnashing of teeth of the Rob and Twigs shippers. Of course we've already heard quite a lot from Hope. It's really too bad that she didn't do like Joy Gail and vow on RPI that she was done with Rob and Kristen blogs. Of course Hope COULD be Joy Gail for all we know. Do lies count if it's under another name in cyber space? Maybe. Probably.

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  172. Happy Friday Havenettes. How is everyone? Take a deep breath and relax. I have no reason to question my faith in their relationship. This entire pr situation has grown old, and, tbh, I'm bored with it. Like Sherry said it's all smoke and mirrors. If anyone truly believes that this is for real then they need to take their opinion elsewhere.

    This is a business deal. Rob is indulging us with a good act at the same time. My husband looked at the pictures and said that didn't look like the Rob we've known for years.

    If, and that's a mighty big if, there was a valid reason to think they were "broken up," then I wouldn't be here. Yet there are constant clues and signs that remind me that all is well in their world. If this business venture isn't working out, then hopefully they'll get it back on track (I believe Kris is involved in this as much as he is).

    BBL

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  173. Rae, it's a nice thought. I just wonder, if it's indeed PR and PR only, how things will be explained when Rob and Kristen will finally let the truth coming out about their child (they might not do it right now but they will, someday). The PR plan could come back in the discussion. Will they assume it was PR? Will they let the question unanswered?
    I see some fans are already reading stories about the break up. Of course, they could explain Rob and Kristen have reconciled. But how will they explain the marriage and the child? It's not easy. It will be interesting to see what will happen in the future.

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  174. Rob and Kristen won't explain anything in my opinion. If and when they introduce their child's existence they will simply tell you her name and possibly how old she is. People will do the math and laugh at the tabloids and those who refused to believe.

    Rob once said that movie stars were America's version of royalty. Royalty does not have to explain anything; unless it's in relation to law.

    Since when is it against the law to have a child in privacy? JMO

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  175. HKN, Pretty please do a clean up patrol, we have troll poops and well Joy Gail? I am constantly amazed at all the various explanations for weird antics for Rob. I really do agree with Gigi, as it is very boring and obvious that they are , Rob and Kristen in a business deal and , confusing the trolls at the same time. I believe Kristen will have a great ability to achieve some desirable goals and because they really are together, make some money at the same time. Have faith in them. Susie

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  176. Hannah, I agree, RK do not Thanks.explain their personal actions because no matter what they attempt to say, the rags will turn around negatively. HKN, will you please put on the post filter?

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  177. Rae, I don't think we are really nutty about RK, in HKN, DIDY, AND SRWN, plus many other posts, I think we are trying to give positive input in a very negative slightly weird groups of fans that are way over the top, and some are so unstable they are using multiple covers in posting like Jane, Hope, Joy Gail, and they are not welcome here to Debbie Downer all day. I think you have to put on your Sherlock Holmes Cap and cross your eyes, fingers and toes we can avoid the haters that know nothing. Have a great day! Susie

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  178. Sue I am sorry if I offended your sense of dignity; and I completely agree with you. But it would have sounded like bragging to say us smart " you can't always fool us" fans. Don't you think. Humble is always nicer than arrogant.

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  179. @Rogue
    if I was friends with Rob I wouldn't ask him for money not even in a million years. Friendship and money should not mix, that is why they are still friends. There is a huge difference between supporting by wearing your art or going to your concerts and actually asking to invest on you. No to mention the public will find that suspicious and nepotistic. Now if Twigs that is just an acquaintance make a case for her and Rob decided to help for other reasons that is different IMO.

    @Dorothee
    What is there to explain? Neither Rob or Twigs had confirmed the relationship. Later on when she says they are just good friends/business partners like Katy, Dylan and every other girl has said no one can say they lied, the press did as usual.

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  180. Wow so many theories floating around...well my name is muffin and I know nothin.......I am just a poor old R/Kian floundering out here on my ship waiting......watching...hopeful.... still onboard....have a great weekend haven girls....! Arleen congrats on the job...! You are one spectacular woman!

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  181. A stargazzer - wow- your baby will be here soon! That's wonderful news. Are you ready?

    My faith's not shaken. This pr campaign has only served to make it stronger.

    Merchandising was my field of expertise for years. I know what is required to market a product. We don't know what is going on behind the scenes. There are multiple details we aren't privy to, and that might be a good thing. Rob's doing whatever is necessary to help his friends and possibly make a profit. I love that he is loyal to them and to his wife. That's the kind of quality I search for in a person.

    Back to clearing up my craft space.

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  182. I wandered over to RPLife and peeked at the latest pictures. A happy man, my fanny. My thought is he regrets getting involved with her business. From the little seen publically, it certainly cannot be worth all th stress it has caused.

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  183. Hannah, I guess You're right they won't explain anything. But like you said people will do the maths. Media will, too. But this time It's not only the tabs that tried to tell a story. Rob wanted us to believe that story. So yeah, I think consequences might be harsh and rude.
    a stargazzer, it will be hard for them to be credible to play the friendship's card because of the hand-holding thing.
    Except if...there's something else behind the PR cover as I believe.

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  184. Good Morning Havenettes!

    I was reminded of a brilliant saying last night that I would share for all those on the fece sitters. It comes from that wonderful, brilliant woman Betty White and although I won't write it word for word, it goes something like this.

    Don't tell them to grow some balls, tell them to grow a vagina becuase that thing can take a much harder bashing than balls can.

    So with that image in your heads I'm off to my pretty young cousins Hens day for a winery tour....

    Love to all.

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  185. @Gigi
    I have the philosophy that you are never really ready for kids. But they come anyway so do your best! I'm at that stage now I mean so far my 2 year old is doing fine so I think I can repeat the miracle. ;)

    @Dorothee
    Katy Perry was sitting in Rob's lap. That was a lot more intimate than hand holding. Friends can touch each other is not that big of a deal, IMO. The fact that no pap has gotten the money shot (a kiss) makes it easier than anything. Even when they were hiding their relationship we had pics of kisses. I mean why a couple so in love that is willing to walk publicly wouldn't kiss?

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  186. What worries me about all this stuff with rob is this..he has been linked with tons of women in the past...but never was he papped traveling with any of them. .now going on for a month ..or was he ever photographed holding hands with any one of them... This has been different ......I have no answers or explanations...just saw a new set of pictures so they are still together.......now in New York.....??? Not holding hands with it but still together......bummer...:-(

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  187. Ladies of the Haven, Hello.

    What a great day to be a fan of
    Robert and Kristen. I am so enjoying reading your post. Lots of really great points and spirited exchanges. I believe the answers we are seeking are closer to a combination of it all your points.

    Many artist seek cooperate partnership, Google. Especially, when you are working with an unknown. The video made that possible. Rob may be the person, producer, who stands for the investment and guarantees that the artist will uphold their obligation, road manager. True. he should have paid a professional.

    However, if you give your word and your artist is showing up an hour late for concerts or venue shows low interest. Then it's your job to fix it, the fixer. Rob had an obligation to step in, Paris; to turn the ship around. Poor Rob!

    Peace!

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  188. Hello to all the Havens! How are you all?

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  189. Ladies I like that you are expressing your opinions on this in a spirited way but please refrain from any disparaging remarks about Rob and how he is handling this situation. I will not put up with any Rob bashing. It will be deleted if you do.I understand some of you are frustrated with what is going on but the pictures we just got tell the real story don't they? Does that look like a happy man to you? Keep the faith and from the looks of those new pictures I think we will be seeing an end game to the Twiggy pr show soon. Rob is about at the end of his rope with all this.

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  190. Hey, hows everyone here. I seen the new pics today and I'll say Rob looks so unhappy like he was in a daze or something. Nolagirl I hate the pics, I miss seeing Rob and Kristen together. I watched pineapple on JK, well the next day on the net, Jimmy, said at the end of her performance WOW never seen any thing like that before. I show one of her video's on youtube today to one of my friends daughters(she's17)she muted it and said she didn't like it in like 20 seconds if that. I want to think that maybe Rob and Kristen and the others are trying to make her something, you know like they do on The Voice, maybe they see her potential to be a star in the future. I don't know what to think other wise. I still very much believe in Rob and Kristen. Just looking at the pics that came out today tells me he not happy with all that is happening.

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  191. HKN, It makes me remember that for years now, Rob has been put out there by the media as a ladies' man, all over , with a girl in every port, and basically he is feeding this back to the media, with advertising branch a goal, which did the trick by filling empty seats. Aimed at the younger fans who identify and want Rob to not be with Kristen. I do think it is not a fun task for him, acting out their wishes, because there are other things he would prefer to do. Kristen is definitely in his life daily, in LA or NY or Timbuktu. But, no, we will not see them together for awhile. I have always been so sad about the way a large portion of so-called fans treated them both. So much venom doled out to two nice people that nobody really knows. No, many do not understand them or really know anything really, but I do think Rob has worked out in his head that he is taking a lot of the heat off his beautiful young wife. And, he really is, and it is uncomfortable for him, to spotlight himself, because that man does not like his life under the gun. He really does not enjoy invasion of privacy. Hoping that more and really good wishes are sent to them both. I do not look at the advertising, as I did not like the Dior Rob advertising either and to me, this is the same old, same old. I must be one of the over the hill mob. No, really, I can separate real from unreal, you watch the eyes. This thing is a form of living hell for Rob, as he says, the photographs are taking away part of his existence. I cannot imagine how that really feels. Everyone have a great weekend. Susie

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  192. Chris B, I noticed what Jimmy Fallon said, and I saw B.'s face, she glared, and I thought, now how did he mean that? It seemed as though she was stopped mid-performance, but it could have been the time was already covered. The whole performance went right over my head, I have had 20 years of dance and performed for 15, so I think I was hoping for more of a song to save this appearance. I have seen a lot of visual dance/song work, modern dance interpretation. I sure missed the overall point other than sexy moves. Maybe that was the point. I think belly-dancing is more explorative and definitely has great moves. Sorry guys, I am way over being able to relate.

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