All right soldiers fall in! And start marching!
Uhm okay we might need a little work.
We are being inundated with trolls and non believers! They are sending blurry pics like the one below to People and other tabs and they are buying into it.
Your Sargent has seen the original picture in the print magazine and it's not much clearer. Supposedly this is Rob and Dylan Penn is behind him putting her arms around him.
NO there is no one behind him . Follow your eyesight and you can see where the arm is coming from the sleeve of the man in the picture.
They are taking twitter sightings and changing the details. Brunettes have turned into blondes. And Blondes have turned into brunettes. Dylan Penn is a blonde one moment and a brunette in the next. What ever fits the twitter sighting they are going with at the moment.
She was blonde at the Emmys.
Now supposedly there was a sighting of Rob with a brunette after the Emmys. Yeah explain that one dipshidiots.
Waiting Waiting.....
Their way of explaining all the brunette sightings that before they took as fact? She was brunette before the Emmys and dyed her hair blonde especially for the Emmys.
Okay then.
Now the People article stated "a pattinson source" told them this epic news. And according to the dipshidiots this means Rob and /or his rep Nick Frenkel.
No. it does not . It would say his rep confirmed if that was the case. And secondly Rob and /or his rep would never ever say anything about his personal life to People or any other tab.
The dipshidots will try and sway you with the argument that all the other tabs are reporting it too. This is a diversionary tactic soldiers! Don't fall for it!
They are doing nothing but using the copy and paste feature on their computer screen.
Lets look at this one more time soldiers .
If there is such epic love where is it in this picture? No Where. Normally when you are boyfriend and girlfriend you are sitting close together.
Oh say like this.
Or this.
Normally you would at least hold hands.
Oh say like this.
Or this
Hey even a kiss or two.
Like this.
Or this
Or this
Hey at this point even him looking at her and smiling like he means it would do.
Oh like this
Or this
Bringing her a towel and a drink after her swim would be an added bonus.
So they have been together for two months and the only pic is a blurry fan pic? Rolando must be slipping.
One of our dedicated soldiers played a ruse on People :
Hello,
My name is XXXX, I'm a friends with Dylan. I don't know where did you get this report but they are not dating. Just thought you'd like to know that.
Thanks,
XXXX
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PEOPLE:
Hi XXXX,
Thanks for writing in. We pride ourselves on reporting what's true, so I appreciate your time. Could you help us set the record straight- why you're so sure they're not dating, are they just friends? I just need a little more to go on since we do hear they are dating.
Thanks again!
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Hi,
I'm not sure who gave you that info but it's not true... Dylan is a close friend, she read your post & laughed... As far as I know they are not related at all.. I don't know who gave you the info but it's not true at all
Thanks,
XXXX
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PEOPLE:
By not related, you mean they don't even know each other?
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I never heard her talking about him before .... Perhaps they met because I know her dad worked with Robs girlfriend or ex girlfriend a few years ago
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PEOPLE:
Oh gotcha! How long have you known her for? Would you say Rob isn't even her type which is why she was laughing about it? Or do you or Dylan have any idea why the rumors even started?? I saw online they were at Viper Room earlier this month...guessing that was just a friendly outing then (which is totally allowed!)
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I know her for 15 years I think , since childhood ... I don't think he's her type to be honest but she was laughing because she didn't understand from where did those rumors came. She doesn't know why it started, she said that she knows there are always many rumors about him but she never expected to be in the middle of it
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PEOPLE:
Ha! Well I'm glad she can laugh about it...it must be weird to have the spotlight on her suddenly.
How did you guys become friends? And since you've known her for so long, how would you describe her (very nice and down to earth, etc) and what is usually her type so I can help explain how weird the dating rumors are? By the way, I think she is so gorgeous- just like her mom!
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Well, my dad used to be a good friend of her dad (they are not so close now but we stayed friends). We kind of grew up together, I'm a bit older so I'm kind of the big sister to her
She is prettier in real life than you see her in pics, very down to earth which is surprising because she was raised by famous parents. She's just 22 so not sure I can define her exact type, she dated different guys but I do know she prefers guys who are not from Hollywood in order to keep her own sanity but in general I think she likes good boys , she's not looking for the bad guy... Really sweet girl
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PEOPLE:
She sounds like a great girl...did she seem upset about the report? I actually have a friend who also went to Marin a couple years ago...I read somewhere Dylan went to USC for college- do you know if that's true?
And so cool you two have stayed friends through so many years. That's so rare! Is your dad also in the entertainment industry too?
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I don't think she was upset but she wasn't feeling comfortable with it for sure.. She was surprised really.
If I'm not mistaken she went to USC that is correct..
My dad is a businessman ... Not entertainment , we also lived many years in Germany but now I'm back in LA
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PEOPLE:
Oh that's amazing! How long have you been back in LA? Are you working out here now too?
Do you think it's possible Rob wants to date her and that's where the rumors are coming from...? Every media outlet is reporting that they've been dating casually for two months now so it's a little crazy if none of it is true...but maybe it's just he's been talking to his friends about her for awhile now so they think there's something going on?
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I'm here for 6 months now, starting to look for a job, needed time to settle
I don't think so.. She did tell me that her dad said Rob never shares things with people that spread rumor .. As I said she was surprised & to be honest I emailed just you because I know that People Mag is the most reliable media outlet, I know you don't deal with rumors but only with facts so I thought I should let you know... I know nothing about his side but from what I know from Dylan it makes no sense
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PEOPLE:
I'm really glad you reached out to us. We do want to get things right so if I hear anything else I will run it by you and see what you think. And just so you have it, my cell is XXX-XXX-XXXX. Feel free to text/call me if you see anything else you think might not be completely right on any site/magazine this weekend.
Good luck job hunting! I know it can be tough- if I can help with anything let me know.
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As you can see, we all can be sources. They have no idea what they're talking about. If you think I was clever- just think how can AP & Poopscoop fool them. Might want to make you rethink if other things (different break up announcements etc.) are actually reliable... !
Oh really now? So called truth sayer People doesn't sound too sure of their source in this email conversation do they soldiers. This Soldier deserves a promotion!
Any soldier trying to flop flop, cause doubt, fraternize with the enemy, or go awol out of this chicken outfit will be sent automatically to the stockade!
Your next assignment. Start learning how to knit or crochet to make those pink or blue booties!
All right ladies. Done for today. At ease.
Woah! Not that at ease! Corporal Sash! Keep your soldiers under control! It's not party time just yet! Private Okie you are in direct violation!
Go Tribe!!!!!!!! Woot Woot!
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1 – 200 of 237 Newer› Newest»Thor´s wink was the best LOL Thanks for the post!!! #TogetherTogether hehehehehe
Totally Cool!!! Hats off to you!!! I applaud you. Great Post!!!!!
Love,love,love this. I love your humor. Fun times ahead...I'm glad I'm on the right side of this crazy fandom. Thanks for the post HKN!
Very nice HKN...I know there will be a big sigh of happiness when this all comes out!
choose the waters carefully, those who are still clutching the people mag as a bible to their chests (Mia and anyone else)
There is going to be a bit if an unsettled ocean - a few waves and rips, a swell...or two...but for those who have remained faithful and have not given into the ranting and raving of the lunatics in their fly by posts and fist pumping 'told you so's' which have ended up sounding like wounded whimpering sobs, when the rumours of Rob's many women don't pan out...
You will be rewarded :D
Tempest
The haters are a little ruffled by my latest post lol. They say I should be sued for posting the fake emails and sullying Peoples stellar reputation lmao!
The possibility of Kristen ever being pregnant makes them go ballistic.:):):)
Hi HKN: fantastic post!! I feel GREAT times are ahead. I'm so glad we all hung in there. I can't wait to see what's going to happen next! Take care!! Aloha, Jane
I am looking forward to my reward! My reward will be a long ass in your face told you so post! Can't wait!
HKN; People has never had a stellar reputation trust me, it's all been a front for the seedy undertakings both they and the rest of the gossip mags out there. Why do you think Rob and Kristen agreed to a spread and interview with none other than Harpers Bazaar? they could have so easily done a Nikki Reed and had an exclusive 'look at my wedding pics y'all' like she did? But they chose lol a higher end market glossy magazine, one in which the journalists working for it do not listen or get bought/sucked into reading the fanatical woes of middle aged bored housewives obsessing over a man young enough to be their son or prepubescent teenagers with a moody axe to grind?
People has a reputation? Yeah, and Bill Clinton 'did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewesky!'
vernistine
who did annie packer send the story too? people or in touch? wow. I shouldn't be surprised.
why am i not surprised that the packer lunatic is behind yet another bullshit tabloid fuck up? Excuse me while i book myself into my eye specialist for 'yet' another operation to correct my retina problem from too much eye rolling!!
The idiot is Queen fuck up the drama and just loves getting her kicks out of not only trying to make the tabloids look like they haven't got a clue about anything but in the process of she trying to sell a stupid story she is allowing everyone to see just how much 'faith' you shouldn't take in anything they print.
Well done packer, you have gone from lunatic to completely over the edge, to sell your stories you are making idiots out of the gossip rags and i have a feeling you didn't have that intention when you filled them in on your lies?
great post Tempest!
Annie P needs to boiled in her own venom!
Thx HKN, great posts by both you and Tempest on her blog lately! Rosesee's was good today too.
@HKN the preggers innuendo cracks me up, the dipshidiiots must be unhinged at that idea! Great job!
@vernastine well lookey there hon, our convo in the previous post this morning about Dylan knowing K just proved to be sane and correct! Imagine that, eh?!
Now if this fandom would just stop reading the trashy tabs/webloids/papz narratives. We could, as a fandom, single handedly break them financially if we could just organize and committ to doing so...by not reading their trashy and falsely reported gossipy crap.
Night and sweet dreams all.
WOWWW IS THE BEST THANKS FOR THE POST ROBSTEN TOGETHER FOREVER THANKS
Hatersknownothing I love you.xox Bowing to your wonderful work. You never cease to amaze me. Your work....priceless. Looking at that picture though, the arrow is pointing to Dylan right, so were people actually suggesting there was someone else behind Rob? I don't do twitter so I'm ignorant in that department. Also, for a couple who was supposed to be crazy about each other, Dylan's body language tells otherwise. Her body turned away from Rob, can't see much affection there. Anyway, you're a star. Mum used to say 'if you keep stirring muddy waters you get stuck'. Thank you
As always love your post. It would be too funny if People do contact you to confirm some new gossip. Wow haters stating you should be sued, what about them. Annie would be at the top of my list. Most favorite part was when you stated Rob does not share things with people that spread rumors.
Forgot to mention I loved that song when it came out back in the day. Thanks for taking me down memory lane.
Tempest, love what you say too and everyone else here who believes in RK.
What a surprise! People is not the gospel??????
great post HKN. love to watch the downfall of the haters.. i can't wait for that to happen.
HKN peeps, hold the fort, we are in for a hell of a ride
Annie Annie Annie.
Whatever happened to this woman for turning into such an evil bitch. I was wondering if she was behind all this or at least started it of.
Damn, I though those emails were for real. Nice one HKN.
Seriously, all this is just madness. Maybe I have a short memory plus I was never invested (still not) in what the tabloids had to say but is it just me? Has things not got madder and way out of control? I suppose as long R&K and their good friends know the truth they don't give a shit about anything being said.
@Tempest, am still floating on my raft with an occasional wave hitting me in the face but no way in hell am I a quitter. Been through enough storms in my life to know never to give up.
Can I have my reward now? Sue..pouting.
LOVE you post, HKN........
Just a pity the author got unjustified criticism IMO
Anyways, listen up........
Haters, trolls, Annie P and all of her ilk are about to get a
BISH BASH BOSH
and no-one deserves it more than them....
Rob and Kristen will go from strength to strength, of that I'm sure, leaving Annie P to howl at the moon.......... I'm reminded of a character from the excellent Dutch film 'Antonia's Line' - do see it if you get the chance!!!
Annie P - *SMH* at you, girl.......
brilliant, i have no better words.And lagirl deserve admiration, congratulations and a statue for what shhe has done.
The soldier jokes I can make are endless here... Thanks HKN :-)~~~
@HKN it was on Spunk Ransom.com the link below:
http://www.spunk-ransom.com/
She had sent a clearer picture. E news busted it.
Sorry I just saw your post. went out last night to enjoy real life for a while. :0) Like you say we have too......
Good morning everyone!!
Love the post HKN!! I am going to sit back and enjoy this Ship!!
Have a wonderful day ladies!!
Rob on Is it really a better image? I still have problems to recognize him!
Enna - So look at the dates again. The grainy picture was stated to have taken place on Sep 7th. Why it is being talked about now and not earlier in September. With the pace of technology why now over 3 weeks from the photo date to be hitting the gossip press? What did the photographer do to get those pictures to the tabloids, sent them via pigeon courier? If using those, it still would not take it that long to hit the gossip press.
Also let’s go back to the date on KHN posting which was September 20th. At that time the posting was based on information known at that time. Do you criticize your local news organization when new information comes out after they went to air/print the details of the original story??? If she was so wrong then why did you not post a comment on the original posting as I did not see you posted any comment at that time?? Well, is it because you did not know the events on September 7th just like HKN did not have this information?
Again let’s look at the those calendar dates – I am making the assumption that Rob is in LA from September 2 – 7th then he was still not seen from August 23rd to September 1st; September 8 to the September 16th which he could have been aboard.
Also, something to think about why would Kristen be snapped getting photography supplies on the day before the announcement of Rob was attached to the Life movie in which he plays a photographer? Was this a possible gift for him when he had the change to visit during the time from September 8th to 16th? Also why would she need photography supplies? Where is the camera that needs photography supplies? If you noticed in the latest pictures Kristen was taking photos of the dog with her smart phone and none of her friends were photographed carrying a camera around their necks. I doubt the production crew would send an actor to get camera supplies.
Note: Rob on his way to Germany could have flown direct out of San Fran on Lufthansa on their double deck airplane in which they only holds 8 people into first class. Kim and Kyname flown reccently out of San Fran to Paris recently to avoid paps given his distate (to put it mildly) of them.
Well that is my bit of rambling for this morning.
A big Thank you Lisa G........:0) You are so on point and very correct. Love that!!!!!!
You all are just beautiful! Thank you HKN for your spunk and fun attitude, it is such a lot of fun to read your posts and check out the babies and other pictorials too numerous to mention! I'll bet the idiots are really having a hard time with all the pseudo-pregnant Kristen jabs, which could easily happen , but may or may not be a current condition. Giggles. I hope that everyone has a terrific Sunday and that you all are feeling mellow.
I don't believe what e-news says about anything,. I was showing where they have started the back peddling. I have always said Rob and Kristen are together and fuck what anyone else thinks. I don't believe the rags and hags who write or read them. I saw this on spunk ransom and thought it would be interesting to show. Nothing behind it. Not selectively believing anything they say. I do me and no one else.
NO BUTS.......
Love. It. I'm thinking pink.
Hi again,
I have a question,on the posting by TwitLonger it states "since Gossip Cop lost Nick", what is this referring to? Is this Rob's manager Nick?
Thinking of doing both pink and blue since Rob Kristen come from large families.
Thanks.
I'm with Lisa G. A little boy like Kristen and a little girl like Robert....
Maybe some of you are not gonna like this but it cracked me up, the hypocrisy is hilarious so I'm gonna share this with you.
I read a comment today (forgot where).
It said: "Dylan is so much better for Rob than Kristen"...ready for this? Because now Rob shaves more and wears a belt. Hahahaha. A belt? Hahahaha. Well if these women find this a good foundation for a good relationship I finally figured out with what kind of idiots we're dealing with.
Oh man, still laughing. I wonder sometimes if R&K are still so grateful (what a lot of people think they should be) for doing 5 Twilight movies. It's a give and take situation (quite literally). Fame vs privacy.
Ennema - you are back spewing your bile. She deletes you because you are a troll. You try to apply whatever is in your twisted mind to everyone. For example You took me showing a comment, to me believing it. Don't ever twist my words. Don't ever presume to know what me or any other person on this site is thinking or meaning. If you want to be a mind reader go join the circus. Information is meant to be shared in some cases. We do that here and most times get a great laugh about it. Like the shit you spew. It is a great laugh. You are a joke of monstrous proportions. Learn to embrace life. Try to stop being a Debbie Downer and see the glass as half full. Believe me you will feel better. That irritable bowel syndrome you undoubtedly have will ease up and those hemorrhoids will go down.
NO BUTS.....They are still as one........
Good afternoon!!
Lisa G..Your comments are spot on. Especially knowing how the media and pappz play with the dates to suit their agenda's.
To all the wonderful ladies still on the Ship, great comments. We all agree, Rob, his friends and his reps are not sources. The only sources for the trash are the haters.
Have a great evening!
Oh and Ennama your bile threatens no one but you. After you spew the puke the drivel is left on your chin. You have to clean it up and taste the after effects in your own mouth. So go brush and rinse. You will find a clean mouth makes you feel a lot better!!!!!
Well, Vernistene, like I said before, you're pretty damned funny. Yeah. You have a way with words. You should be a writer.
Okay, just my thoughts on the drama, and then I'm moving on...
I admit that I do still read gossip (sorry R/K!). The way I view it is that you take it all with a grain of salt & use your own logic to figure out what, if anything, is true. I don't go for grand conspiracies. I understand that it is all business and that money is the bottom line.
So, Rob was connected to a slew of women, all of whom he's been dating for a "month or two" and is "really into" (hmm...sounds legit). As far as the trainer goes, I feel for her. She just happened to have the brunette hair mentioned by Radar Online (Radar is almost always total fabrication). X17 then uses her in order to turn some mundane pics into an "exclusive." Interestingly, Eonline immediately debunks (probably with just a call to Rob's gym), and puts themselves into a position where they are pursuing the "truth." Next, Life & Style and InTouch go with the Dylan story based on a blurry pic from three weeks ago. Someone shopped this cellphone pic when it was taken, but none of the big outlets bit (wonder why). With Dylan making an appearance at the Emmys last weekend, though, now she's news. People Online (which is NOT the same as the print magazine; it follows the same mantra as the other sites - 'get it first' not 'get it right.' They did, after all, run the UHaul pics last year and never ran a retraction) picks it up, and then later updates with a "source." No one with real Rob knowledge would give such a ridiculous quote. (I'm going to skip UsWeekly who tried to blend all of the stories into one while still running with the Riley story because, just no....)
For me, the real problem is People Online. Because it has the aura of respectability, other outlets ran with the story (yet, the "reporter" who exchanged emails with the fan says that they ran the stories because all of the other outlets were saying it was true, um, no, you did & everyone else followed suit).
For what it's worth, here's what I think happened (and why the story didn't sell til now because it's nothing). Rob's friend Nick Jarecki has photos on his instagram from the Viper Room from 3 weeks ago. The band also includes a friend of Sean Penn's. My guess? Rob goes with Nick & crew and runs into Dylan (whom he has met via K). They talk. Someone with a cellphone takes a picture. A story is born. I'm no body language expert, but nothing in the way either Rob or Dylan are sitting or their proximity to one another suggests new romance, but that's just me.
Now, as far as the EOnline debunks: E rarely deviates from the prevailing story. The one time they did recently was last spring when all the tabloids reported that Miley & Liam were over. E clearly has a Miley source, and said that nope, they weren't. At that time, they were still together. Now, I don't know if E is just taking a contrary stance this time to be different or if they do have someone talking to them (this person may be from Rob's team, & Rob may not even know they are talking - there seem to have been times like this in the past with GC). Still, the quotes they have sound like someone trying to issue corrections. E is still E, though, hence the add ons in the last piece (which makes me think that they do have some kind of source but don't want to miss out if the source isn't telling the truth). If you read that last debunk article carefully, the info from the "source" is that Dylan and Rob have hung out, but he is not romancing her. Everything else is E spicing it up. The first article also ends with the idea that 'Rob isn't interested in dating right now.' Maybe I read Ted at the AT for too many years, but I can read all kinds of things into that wordsmithing.
Anyway, those are my ramblings. Sorry for taking up so much space on the board. Have a good Sunday, all.
Ennama - Flattery will get you no where. Try being nice. Stop the attacks. Swallow the bile. See how you fair after that!!!
@ Enna
Um, part of the point of gossip is that you can take part of it as being true without having to believe the whole story. Tabloids thrive on innuendo and exaggeration. I can use my brain to separate those things from the little pieces of truth some sprinkle in. This is why I can look at an E! article and say that some parts rings of truth and others are where they are trying to make a spicier story.
Good on Ya Jen!!! It was great and to the point. There was no negativity just logic. Great Job!!
Enna- the way you posted your original comment was an attack. If you express your option without attacking then HKN would have respected your opinion. My knowledge is not frightening regarding the photos or the dates. I just visit Robsten Dreams and HKN for what is happening. If you reference HKNs posting regarding the ninja days you will see her pictorial of the calendar dates that were crossed out for those days with no sightings of Rob. So I based my comments on that information. In regards to the supposed Dylan and Rob pictures everyone on the various boards are stating the date; i.e. common knowledge. In regards to the K&K this was mentioned on my local new broadcast because of his confirmation with the paps at LAX.
What do you mean believe the rest of it? In general if we look at the various gossip sites on the story of Rob and Dylan some have made no comment (gossip cop) which is strange for them, some are on the new girlfriend band wagon (People), some not (E) and some flip flopping (HL). So if this is a sure thing why are they not on the same bandwagon??
@ Enna
Yes, sweetie, I try to be a thoughtful consumer of information, so I did put some thought into that. Just like you're putting an awful lot of time into hanging out around here posting your own "theories." You're not going to shame me. I will admit that I'm over invested - just like you are, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Also, just so you can sleep at night, I did just check my pulse rate to confirm that I am, in fact, calm. Kisses.
Enna - So are you stating that HKN is a stalker now?? How about one who obtains all the evidence first to support their comments. So are you stating that mass media (credited news organizations) would also be called stalkers because they do research before presenting their information to the public??
Enna, (and I use your correct tag)There is no nice or decent in you. I bet in the RW you get that all the time. Then again you may have to swallow so much hatred and anger that being on here, doing to people what is done to you, is your only outlet. If you didn't bow down to hate and anger in RL maybe you would have a better attitude. Right now you are a boil on the butt of the devil himself. You think what you say is clever and will crush someone. Make them look stupid or prove you are right and they are wrong. Not happening. It makes you look bitter and vindictive. Maybe that's the look you are going for but I always tell it like I see it so it ain't a cute look on you boo. You or nobody else. Calm down chic......
Jen - I suspect you've pretty much hit the nail on the head. As far as a "source" goes,half the time it's a barman or hotel porter who'll say whatever you want to hear for $100 then you have lemmings like Enna who gobble it all up like the missing 5th gospel.
Great synopsis, Jen.
Well thought out and more than likely exactly as it has played out.
Thanks!
Given that it is a Sunday our prayers have been answered that Enna is leaving this site.
Enna
I doubt you will stay away. You are like a bad fungus that keeps showing up.
HKN like I said she is a boil on the butt of the Devil itself!!!! Great Post as always!!!
@Jen -- LOVED your post. You know why? Because it makes sense - so much sense. If you glance at the other sites there is so much waffling and obvious back pedaling already. The really funny - or perhaps scary - part of all this is the posters who are declaring that this is Rob's true love, her family already accepts him, People NEVER gets a story wrong, he is wearing a belt now because of her and that is public declaration (Um.....did I miss that one) shows how important she is. Oh and the multiple dates - based on the photo you reference which looks like people talking. I don't see this obvious epic love story that the crazies do. Of course they are the same people who were pushing the Riley story, the Katy story, the Sia story, the Camille story, the random brunette story, the check out person at the gas station story, the woman he walked by in the airport story, and that lady who breathed the same air as him story.
I really love the rational way you proposed your theory - which I think makes complete sense. Besides, why would he step out on Kristen? The delusional posters just can't stand the fact that they know R&K are still together - so they grasp anything at all that can be spun into a hook-up rumor.
Thanks.
Hi Jen, thanks for you take on why the photo from Sept is just now being reported on. I total agree with your comments.
Donny Osmond....still a hunk!
DEAR HKN HAVEN--I think it really is amazing how many opinions are given for a nothing story from a gossip magazine. Where did People and E get the last bit of Crap? From style or ok or any of these magazines are just filler to make more hits on the hit parade of lies. Does Rob have to hide out the rest of his life to survive the sharks looking for blood from him or Kristen? At this point each and everyone of you should know you are STUPID if you read any of the gossip columns--there are made for those of us looking for shit to smear on the blogs. It is time to grow up and ignore bullshit by never reading it unless you just to waste time and money bullshitting a bullshit logger hits . Fewer hits on those blogs mean the lie machine will slow down and at some point stop.
Is Kristne really pregnant? You have mentioned babies in the last 3 or so posts.
Some don't think she is because theres 2 new pics of her smoking while filming even though the cigs look like herbal ones they used for movies.
Lol great detective work HKN you are still the warrior queen ..... wait .... make that 5star General !!!!!
I hope she is pregnant... intresting little belly she had in recent pics while filming.... hmmmmmmm?
My comment about blue and pink was made in jest due to some people commenting on the swimming pictures.
Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I am going to say goodnight.
Hatersknownothing- You did a great job on this. Glad you kick out the some trolls here. And also love your comments.
Tempest- Love your blog too. Great job. I always love your comments.
vernistene- Great job and I love all your comments.
feliciy- Hi there. I always love your comments. And I agree with you.
rklove- love all you comments as always.
As for the rest of you great job on your comments except for trolls/haters that have been kick out of here. They don't belong here. Well I am hitting the sack. Keep me posted. Night.
Afternoon people in here, it's a gloriously warm day here on the west coast, off work due to the extended holiday weekend (Queen's Birthday)
So the jist of everything is just another troll doing a fly by as she tries to shove her opinions/theories down everyone's throats. how tabloids are the truth and we are all delusional. I have to laugh at the persistent need to 'prove us wrong' it makes me tingle inside with the knowledge that they know damn all and are running around scared because a little birdy told them to expect hell to rain down on them - because the lies the tabs are feeding them are just lies.
Look i hold E! News with the same grain of salty salt as i do with the rest of the entertainment/blogs that try and make you think they know something when they don't. Each gossip site/show/blog has an agenda and that agenda is to make themselves look good and the rest look like shit and they don't care who they have to dump on to get where they want. So if you decided to listen to the delirious ramblings of E! they're no better than the rest. And yes i do admit that People online are different than the magazine they print, but they are an online site, just like the rest of the gossip online sites - they don't look for evidence they just get the rubbish that is sent to them out there and to hell with whether it's true or not - hits mean money - always remember that.
Delusional harpies and haters lol you have to feel sorry for them, they need places like this to peddle their fabricated stories, it makes them feel special we are paying them so much attention, but you see old time regulars like myself, Jen and a few others have been around a block or two and know how to 'decipher' cloaked words-smiths and their ramblings.
Hey everyone,
I've been brooding over something these past few days and maybe some of you can put me out of my mysery:
I've heard from several people that Kristen is, in fact, pregnant. Then there have been all these hints by hkn and other bloggers that pretty much support that theory. It is also quite obvious that our lovely girl has gained some weight.
But here's my problem: Kristen smokes. On my opinion, she doesn't come off as a woman who would continue smoking even though she knows she's pregnant. Also, based on the amount of weight she has gained (so far) she can't be farther along than 8 to 10 weeks - and still so many people know about it? Isn't it that most couples wait to share the news until they are over the three-month mark?
Okay, I'm open for suggestions, comments, criticism! Thanks a lot in advance!!
Okay ladies i am going to be the first to say this...
IF and it's a big IF these rumours running around and yes i have heard of them too...are true, sorry to say this to all you lovely people in here and as a qualified Doctor myself in the field of Psychology, society depicts us to do as i say, not as i do.
Those who feel, slightly 'annoyed/dismayed/worried over recent photos of Kristen with 1 count it 1 cigarette need to really step back, take the blinkers off, and remove Kristen from the very high pedestal that you have placed her on.
I find anyone who judges another person's life style choice, especially around a bunch of rumours to be way off kilter and you need to sit back and stop assuming that your worries and fears are going to have any impact on either lives of the celebrities you follow, seriously please, i urge you to stop and think.
Kristen if she is ........ it's not up to you to argue or confirm one way or the other but it most certainly is not your position as a fan to condemn or condone smoking during pregnancy. I know of a lot of mothers who smoked during pregnancy and their kids are fine - yes it is imperative that you don't because it risks the babies health but if you want to look at it from a purely medical point of view, which i do of course, stopping smoking is not the best route to go completely cold turkey. From what i have seen and i do have eyes on my head - Kristen has not been smoking as much as she used to be (prolific chain smoker) and indeed in a lot of incidences she has not lit up around others who have lit up during smoke breaks.
She has not also and i have again, eyes in my head been partaking in alcohol. Yes there have been drinks and drinkers around her and she has been seen drinking from glasses mostly water.
you are not advised to just quit immediately but you are advised to limit the amount of cigarettes you are smoking, reduce the amount you smoke and gradually come off them or at the very least not smoke as many.
This is from GP's who see countless women who smoke and have smoked during pregnancies.
I can understand fans concerns but i feel those concerns are sometimes overly invested when to bring that cause to light only makes the whole situation not your situation to worry about. I believe that IF these rumours are true, then clearly Kristen is an adult, she is responsible for herself and her health and i feel that she has the 'right' to make that decision for herself.
IF the rumours are true...that is.
I've head the rumours too and as a former smoker I have personal experience with what Tempest has just explained, assuming there is any truth to them of course and as she quite rightly says it's actually none of our business however,I feel the need to defend Kristen from more potentially unfair accusations. My first pregnancy wasn't entirely planned and as soon as I found out I stopped smoking.After 2 weeks of trying to go cold turkey,the stress had caused high blood pressure and my doctor told me firmly that I should not have tried to stop suddenly and he advised me to continue to smoke in moderation,no more than 5 per day. I smoked 3 per day throughout my pregnancy and eventually gave birth to a very healthy,9lb 2oz baby girl,since one of the biggest concerns around smoking during pregnancy is low birth weight,the thought of what size she may have been does make my eyes water a bit! One thing I do feel confident in saying is that IF the rumours are true,I don't believe Kristen would ever do anything to risk her baby therefore IF she's pregnant no doubt she has discussed this with her doctor and is following his advice.
Tempest- thanks for that info. I did not know that as we are told that one should not smoke while pregnant.
Good morning ladies!!
Last night I took my son to a Michael Buble concert!! He was incredible. Had me dancing around like a teenager again :)
Tempest, thanks for your input. I never smoked during pregnancy but, I did indulge in a glass of wine once in a while. If rumors are true, good for Rob and Kristen. I know that they both have tried quitting. It's extremely difficult to quit a habit like smoking. We as fans, know nothing about how much Kristen lights up. I am sure she knows what she should or should not do in case of pregnancy.
BTW: looks like I missed quite a bit of nonsense from Enna..LOL
Have a wonderful day ladies.
Lots of ppl smoke during pregnancy,is it good for the baby no,is it healthy for either mom/baby no.Is it any of our business NO.Quit minding other ppl's business.If if happens it happens, if she smokes she smokes.IT's her decision no one else's so climb off of your high horses life you've never done anything that's unhealthy.
Good Monday Morning to all the hkn havens! Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I am up and about to start cleaning. Did I miss anything while I was a sleep?
I would love nothing more than for Kristen to be pregnant with Rob's baby but I thought this was just some wishful banter between us here on HKN. HkN trying to mess with the trolls' heads and us playing along.
Where are these rumors coming from? Yes, I've seen Kristen being a bit fuller but that could be for her role, so now they are actual rumors? I hope we didn't start some shit with our banter.
Sue - No,there have been rumours for a few weeks now.No idea if there's any truth to them,it's really between Rob and Kristen anyway but I've heard it from a few different sources,it's nothing to do with banter here :)
@Susannahkay, thank you. I don't go to tabloids or have Twitter/Facebook/Instagram so I often have no idea what's going on, which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
Stupid thing thing to say I know but my name is almost the same, Susanna.
@Tempest
I hope by asking about Kristen smoking during a possible pregnancy I didn't come off as judgemental! I totally agree that she is a grown woman and can make her own decisions I was simply curious if both, smoking and being pregnant are things that CAN go hand in hand. I had no idea that it was actually more problematic to go cold turkey than just reducing the number of cigs and I'm grateful that all of you shared your personal and professional experiences!!
That said, I'd still like to ask if you guys think there could be any truth to those rumors? I'm not the one for reading gossip magazines so I'm not 100% sure but I think the tabs haven't picked up that particular rumor yet. So it's all happening between us fans at the moment. So I'm curious what everyone else thinks. Of course, in the end, IF she's pregnant, we'll find out eventually, but I'm still interested in what you guys think!
Thanks and take care!
@Mandy, me too very curious but as she's been pregnant about a dozen times over the past 4yrs, I doubt it. You know your self how there are nothing but rumors about R&K. It's a very nice thought though.
The thing about Rob and his alleged girlfriends is really funny now. Instead, he went to Dylan with the stylist of kristen on a concert and other women. Another proof that R and K and are happy together. No one can believe that he is with friends to a concert of kristen from. I look forward to the return of K and hofffe R and K show the rags, how happy they are mainly the Paps!
@Mindy. Sounds like you're here to collect information for the gossip/rags? You keep coming back to this: our opinion on Kristen's rumor pregnancy. Why is that so important to you? What is it to you? I am curious. We are all adults here and so by all means, please, do tell.
I meant @Mandy. Just curious as to why she is so curious about this one thing. Just my nature. I smell smoke and naturally I get a feeling fire is not so far behind.
@Sanni K - Well if this relationship is so over this been the most amicable breakup in history given that all the friends and stylists are hanging out together. Must be one big happy family (comments made in jest). They are stating he was there with the Florence (from Florence and the Machine) but the other two ladies being there was just a coincidence (ie one who works for Kristen’s stylist). The reason that Dylan was nowhere at this concert was Rob needed a break from spending sooo much time with her to hang out with his friends. BTW that guy on set (with Kristen and her friend from latest set pics) who wore the brown leather jacket and kaki pants was very cute; wish I could trade places with Kristen just to spend a minute or two with that guy.
@Elizbeth, damn have I been taken for a fool? You think this Mandy one is a false one? Hell am I that naive? No, I think I just don't give a shit, I don't have the time to wonder if they are genuine or not. It happens all the time, I suppose, pretending to be fans while instead having an agenda.
Well, no wonder there are hordes of them running to People or HL or whatever tab, being another source full of BS.
Although I get the feeling the tabloids are not that interested in R&K being together. Hooking Rob up with everything with a skirt sells much better at the moment.
Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I was just almost done with my laundry and cleaning. Taking a break for a little.
Tempest- Love your comments. I have to say that I agree with you. And also your blog, HKN, and RPI have same common. One don't believe those trashy tabs and gossip bs. Which I don't believe in those idiots. Two we don't like haters, trolls, nonnies, and along with Rolando and AP are bullies and stalkers. Like I said on DIDY comments. Those two should date each other. And maybe get married. Because they are made for each other. LOL. Three we believe that Rob and Kristen are still together. So I am with you, HKN, and RPI. I am on your side. So that is why I know you guys will come thru.
vana- I have the same problem with my laptop. So I understand.
SusannahKay, Tempest, Lisa G., rklove, and the rest of you guys. I agree with you guys about pregancy and smoking. But nobody knows. So I believe you guys except the trolls/haters.
sue and Elizabeth- I agree with you about tabs. All they care is about making money off Rob and Kristen and spreading lies. That is all they care about. They don't care who they hurt.
Well I better get back to my work duties. Keep me posted.
@Elizabeth @Sue: This is definitely first for me! I have never before been called a... well, whatever it is you think I am. All I can say is, I'm not! Your gut feeling was wrong this time! I've been a fan of Rob and Kristen for a while now and if you want to check me out, pls do so, my Twitter-Account is @kstewandrpatz. All I wanted to know was your opinion about this rumor. It is my experience that many of us have different "sources" and have heard different things and very often I have view things in a completely different light after talking to a fellow fan! It's sad that so many ppl of our fandom have become so suspicious and sometimes even outright rude. We're all here for the same reason after all, which is we totally support Rob, Kristen and their relationship. If me asking for your opinion is weird that it's sad how far we've come! :-(
I don't think that this comment section is meant to be a platform for fights, so it might be smart not to continue this written argument here. Instead, let's leave the space to those who'd like to comment on hkn's latest post...
Hello all of the HKN crew, The only reason I am commenting is that this is a very fun post and I find it really amazing that we always have somebody that likes to come in and be a twerp, like the person who is removed from the blog. I am just happy that Kristen and Rob are managing to live as normal a life as possible, given the fact that they continue to be the most discussed A-list actors you can find, that really do not want the overt attention. They are both single and are friends, so what is the reason for the constant nonsense about them. I think they are trying to keep the press totally messed up for one reason only- baffle them with bullshit! If they never really know what's up with them, then they will never know anything, not really, and it's only fair to stay completely quiet about your life. Nobody from Kristen's or Rob's professional or private life would discuss their personal life so I think I safe to say that they are both just fine, and we should not read the stupid gossip, it just gives me indigestion or gas and is not ever really true, just full of rattlesnakes and bugs.
Mandy, We all here in the same common. That we believe that they are still together. That is all that matters.
ooooh lord, who is haters gonna hate...? you need to calm down. no body said that Kristen was pregnant..it has all been very tongue in cheek..the fact that some people watch every move and critique every word spoke is out of control..if Kristen is or is not pregnant should not be a reason for you to go bolistic. If you don't like the posts don't read them...You are the only person I have read on here lately that remotely resembles and IDIOT...You are angry over something out of your control , gossip about a person you don't know...Whats up with that exactly...calm the F down...I don't think any here wants or deserves your verbal spanking...get a grip!
@Mandy - I SEE YOU!!! Not gonna work. Get your story somewhere else....
NO BUTS........
DEAR VERNISTENE, I am always so amazed at the strange and rather confused, perhaps teenage responses to playful kidding from HKN and DIDY about Kristen and smoking--as Haters no nothing said --it is driving somebody silly and since I really think Kristen would not get all out of shape about it , pregnant or not, I am thinking we struck a hater's nerve, and we all need to be knitting those pink and blue booties just to keep our hand in, what do you think ? Tonight is Sleepy Hollow and it is a new show on Fox, I think I need to learn to ignore the dingbats.
@Mandy. I have a right to question something if I have a reason to without it being looked at as being rude or argumentative. With all that was said, all you wanted to know again, and again, was our opinion on the pregnancy rumor. Since we don't have a personal relationship with Kristen, and she is not telling us anything about her personal life, our opinion is just that....."our opinion". Now you've seen the pictures so you can make your own assessment. No hate or negativity intended.
@SUE MORRIS - I'm with you. I had to learn how to knit and crochet in school all them years ago. Now I can put it to use.... lol lol I saw the Sleepy Hollow ads but I am watching the Voice tonight. Love me some Blake Shelton and Adam Levine.
I try to ignore the dingbats but they are like flies and roaches.
F#@king worrisome. You just have to swat or step on them. lol I think you and Elizabeth do it best. With class and dignity but you still crush them. I drop in the gutter and try to crush them. I am a put up or shut up kinda girl. Love ya!!!!
Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I just got home from running errands just in time watching Dancing with the Stars. I am voting Corbin Bleu. One of Kristen's co-stars From Catch that Kid. So I miss anything?
sue morris, Elizabeth, and vernistene- Great job on your comments. One thing we don't believe the bs you know tabs and all the gossips trashy site.
Hello Arleen
How are you sweetie? I love your comments and positive attitude. I also love when you get in the trolls butts and help run them off. You are awesome!!! Stay strong!!!:0)
Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I am about to go to bed soon. Before I do.
Elizabeth- Just to let you know that Mandy is not a report or one those idiots. She is one us. We all agree that we don't believe those trashy tabs, haters, trolls, and all the trashy gossips. I know because I have her on my twitters. We all agree the same things. We believe that Rob and Kristen are still together. We can't stand haters, trolls, papz, nonnies, tabs, and all the gossip sites. She was just asking if it was true. That is all. So we are in the same boat. Plus I don't like her leaving us. We need much to support Rob and Kristen. We all need to stand up those idiots. Like her twitters says Fighting for them. Meaning we need to fight for Rob and Kristen.
As for everyone else keep up the good work. And I love all your comments. We need much support as we can. Except for trolls/haters. Well I am going to bed. Keep me posted. Love you guys. Don't give up on our couple and stay away from bs trashy tabs and gossip sites. I rather listen to RPI, HKN, and DIDY. Keep up the good and glad you have deleted those trolls and haters. Night.
HKN what's true in Delaney's DM? I mean she made some pretty serious accusations against Rob and it's spreading pretty fast.
Okay; let me make something very clear to people in here who interpreted what i said to mean something completely different, i said and i quote; I have heard the rumours, but i did not at any stage confirm them. If people can't read that and see that for what it means, then clearly they need to go back and relearn 'reading comprehension 101' because you can't read it's as simple as that.
I said IF it is true, not it is true and that is
true, check your facts first, before you go around accusing people of something I didn't do!
Tempest- June was the one that said it. So I apologise to that person. I am glad that twitters clear it up. I can't believe someone would that to her. So I am with you guys.
June- You started this. You should apologise to her. I am with the rest of Rob and Kristen supporters. Plus am with @delaneyg84. She is right she doesn't like drama and so do I and I don't know about the rest. But I am sure they would agree. So to answer your question no its not true.
i am not going to even discuss what has been said behind closed accounts but trust me when i say this that certain people have two faces and have been using those two faces for a very long time. If you choose to run around with those responsible for very serious 'libellous' actions then so be it. For me personally, i choose to believe those who show nothing but support for Rob and Kristen and not someone who has an agenda of their own and is saying some really damaging things in DMs
It is 2am in the morning and the only thing you all are talking about is Kristen's private life and the US gov't just closed down. Does that strike anybody strange? I honestly think somebody needs to left this stuff alone, there are some things that you just do not want to keep on about even though you are curious. The cat was curious too. let's just pray we do not have a terror attack at this particular time.
sorry to spring into this discussion. there is a certain someone who is no good news and if you are going to believe her, i can assure you, you are on the wrong side.
many people know what this person did.
believe what you want to believe, when it comes to this person, but i know what she wrote..
and i am not talking to anyone who is still in contact with her!
sorry, i know @arleen that you are a good person, but you are too trusting!
have a good day
Sue; i don't know much about the US gov't but it sounds like some really serious shit is going down where you are. I am currently living in Oz so lol the gov't here is pretty messed up anyway and i thought i came from a bunch of assholes running the UK
my thoughts are with those currently suffering at the hands of the fat cats earning more than they should while the real working people in the world have to suffer. And i also hope it's not something more sinister xx
Is it really still here at R and K? Or are you talking about a different topic?!
Arleen, Vernistene and all at HKN. Good morning all :)
Arleen ,just a word of advice.Do not trust that person as far as you could through her,that's all I will say.She has an agenda and speaks out of two sides of her mouth.Not sure what happened this time,but please be careful.
Good morning Everyone! Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I am up and just woke up and about to get ready for do my duties.
Felicity, Tempest, and las38- I just unfollow her for now. So yes and Thank you all three of you. So I know to be careful. So I am keeping you guys. And some of the twitters. I love you guys. Please forgive me?
Elizabeth- Hi and how are you?
As for the rest of you. I don't know about you guys I think tabs and media instead of trashy our couple. Which I don't believe their bs. They should really focus on what is going right now. Like if they want to make money of gossip or something they should make money of this Shutdown. I don't know about you guys I don't want they to cut off Welfares and Social Securities for the elders. That is what they should really focus on.
Rob and Kristen are good person. So I am with you guys.
felicity- Actually I don't believe her from what I was told by Thin Red Line. So I just unfollow her for now.
Felicity- I only talk to the good ones like you, DIDY, and RPI. Never to that person. I know that I need to be careful. So I believe you guys.
Hi everyone. Not sure if you know of this website but I would like to pass it along. It is a US/French site for Kristen. Kristen looks to be having a blast working with Juliette. Hope these two will work together in the future.
http://www.itsoktobeyou.org/
I'm lost. Everybody is talking in riddles. I don't do Twitter so the conservation is going past me in who we can trust or not.
When DM was mentioned, I thought you were talking about The Daily Mail, hahaha. Silly me. So this is a person?
@Tempest, I know you were not being serious about pregnancies. I think this was just wishful, playful banter among us that got out of hand but it's also dangerous as this is how rumors start.
I for one don't think she is pregnant but it was a nice thought.
The fandom is very edgy.
We have the K. haters, the R. haters, The R&K faithful, the used-to-be-R&K faithful who don't know what to do.
These are the ones shredding each other to bits now, deciding who they will support: Rob or Kristen. One half is pissed of when you still support Rob and the other half is disgusted for turning your back on ROB. In the mean time the trolls are laughing their heads of, watching our 'used to be tight group' slagging each other of.
Maybe I see it too black&white but sometimes being a fan is not so much fun anymore. Yes, I know leave and stop. The thought has crossed my mind lately but I still feel the pull so I can't let it go yet.
Tempest, Actually, I don't believe so I am going to unfollow her. I rather believe you guys and then her. So I need to be careful from now on. So I am with you guys please. Don't ignore. I am here to stand by you guys. I love you guys. I love being friends with you guys. I have praying alot about you and this. So I unfollow her. I rather to be with you guys the her. So I still don't trust her.
DEAR HKN HAVEN, That is what I believe this post should be and needs to continue to be. We need to protect and support Rob And Kristen by staying calm and refusing to allow anyone to make anyone feel badly about caring about their acting and about them . I support them and live them and for me that is enough. Please pray for this nation, it needs our deepest prayers.
sue morris, Amen to that.
Hi
Just wondering if any of you ladies think the what LuLu Robsten
posted on jul 18th has anything to do with the possible news coming out for Rob and kristen.
This is what she said.
Code fu-king 13. Best email ever.
I meant to say that LuLU posted that on July18th.
barb62p- What is Code 13? May I ask?
Hi everyone! Ok, Next month I am will be switching my cellphone to Iphones, smart phones, or droid. So I need opinion. Which one is better?
I hope no one is mad at me. I am starting getting the silent treatment. I feel like I was being ignore. No I am not trolls, nonnies, or the trouble makers. I am one of you guys.
Arleen
I hope you are not talking about
me ignoring you. I am not.
It might take me longer to respond.
I do not know this board this is my
first day being on here.
Code 13 Means top secret. No one
knows or can know until time permits.
barb62- No. And thanks! And welcome. I don't really know what Code 13 is. I wish I knew.
It just hurt my feelings when people ignore me I know some of them are mad at me. But I did apologize. I am like Kristen. We are both sensitive. We both got feelings. So I know Rob and Kristen feelings. I can tell when I see it. I can tell the way I see it. I know Rob and Kristen are private people. And they are not like other Actors about giving their private lives. So I admire them. And they are not PR. I know when I see real love. They love each other for real. I was back in during the 80's. I am sure of you do it during your high school or teen years. Passes love letters. At the end. Some of us use to put Loves always and forever at the end of letters. I am sure of you do that. That part I believe that in Rob and Kristen. Love always & forever. That is what I believe.
Does anyone of you when kristen comes back home?
@Arleen, sweetheart I'm certainly not ignoring you. Are talking about twitter? Cause you won't find me there.
You are one of our most R&K faithful so you are still on my Christmas list.
Love you.
Arleen - Sweetie I don't think anyone is mad at you.Everyone knows you don't have a mean bone in your body,you're just a bit too trusting at times but that just means you look for the good in people and that's never a bad thing. It's just quiet because people are working and things :)
Sue and SusannahKay- Thanks you guys. I just got out shower and getting ready to leave say at 12:30pm for my tutoring. I got two hispanic girls. One is ready to leave for Mexico. Which I don't want her to leave because she's got alot of gift in her. And I don't want her to give up on her reading. She needs that. And thanks you guys again. I understand about twitter. My early Christmas gift from my hubby is that iphone. Hey he has one and so does my daughter. And that leaves me left out. Plus I can talk to you guys like this to. Well got to go now. Keep me posted.
Felicity- I love country stuff. That is the reason why live in Logan, Utah. I love fresh stuff. But me and my hubby were talking about switching next month in November. Our contract is up that month. He is getting me one. I that should be my early Christmas present. The Iphone, droid, or smartphone. It's hard decisions. And I love your comments.
Hi everyone! Here is what I said to the twitters. I think and I don't about any of you guys. Because I can't stand politicians. I think the government should cut down or shut down on tabs, papz, and all the gossip sites. That way the lies could stop. Got to go now. Keep me posted. Later.
Hello ladies!!
Boy am I lost with all the comments
about Delaney and what happened.
Who said what and Delaney did what?
All crazy.
Honestly, what is it about R/K being together that causes such different and passionate reactions from *fans*?
As a fan, you are supposed to support your idols projects and wish them the best. You are not entitled to know about their personal lives or project your wants on them. Causing damage to their reputation or to fans who support them is wrong.
Whatever happened with Delaney and who did it, was WRONG!
So called fans need to step back and reassess their own lives and judgemental behaviors and figure out why they are this way.
Arleen, I have the Samsung 4 and I love it. My kids have the Iphone but they seem to have glitches with it. So what ever your more comfortable with.
To all the HKN ladies, I love your comments.
Have a good day ladies.
my big question is who is Delaney?
my big question is who is Delaney?
Arleen, my friend has Samsung Galaxy and she loves it. She suggested to ask for one with a memory (whatever that means) if you are inclined to take lots of photos.
HKN I'm not sure if that was my comment that was deleted if so I'm really sorry if I said something inappropriate.
Arleen i have an iphone and i have been considering running over it with my car!! Hope this helps your decision... (really) LOL
Hi Arleen, I have an iPhone and it works fine for me. I think what you need to do is make a list of what you want to use the phone for. Then see which phone meets those requirements the best.
We all love you here and just wanted to make sure that your heart of gold was not taken advantage of. Sorry I could not comment earlier as I was busy with work. Still don't know what DM means but that's okay.
Well HKN you post of the copy and paste and changing the blonde to brunette to need a certain gossip story is so true. One gossip site stated Rob attended the party with Dylan the blonde and referenced the original gossip site that posted the story. But the gossip site that they mentioned stated the girl was a brunette. I guess the copy and paste function was not working correctly and changed the girl's hair color.
Wow the latest outing of Rob at the XX concert is certainly causing a storm about friends hanging out together. Kris and Rob must feel terrible that their friends who are supportive of them are being brought into the fandom's battle. One commenter stated that only Tom Bobby and Sam are Rob’s true friends and Michaela and Nettie are closer to Marcus not Rob (therefore not his friends) so they are just using Kristen to sell concert tickets to his shows. Then people stated that Sydney (works for Kristen) who was at the concert was just a coincidence and that Rob was there only with Florence. It is like the fandom is determining who can be friends with who. I highly doubt other actors/actresses are having fandom’s dig into their friends who are not in the spotlight.
Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I was just got done preparing my Lasagna for dinner. I just put in the oven.
Lisa G.- First I don't listen to bs. Meaning I haven't even look and I am not going to click their site. I meant People, HL, and all the gossip sites. Because I know in my heart and prayers its not true. Plus I believe in HKN, DIDY, and RPI. I know that they know the truth. Because I believe in them.
vana- What ever you said I am sure its bad. Just to let you know I am a forgiving person. But I don't forgive the haters/trolls. And I know you are not those things. So I forgive you.
Lisa G, Vana, rklove, and everyone else- Thanks for advice. But I won't get it til the beginning of November. So I will look into all your advice. Thanks. And also you guys are great people. And we are in the same boat.
As for lena, I think you are in the wrong group. I believe you belong with Robessed. I am sure they love having you there. Because they love to hates. And no HKN is not fake. Bye.
Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I am going to bed now. Keep me posted. Before On yeah I was telling other is this HKN, you guys should use that. Trolls, nonnies, haters, nonberts, tabs, all the trashy gossip sites, and all the trouble makers are like T-rex. T-rex are always hungry. As for those that I have mention. They are hungry for lies, hate, and money. Oh yeah don't forget the papz too. Is one of those categories.
Night.
Anani - Here's the thing, you are more than entitled to believe anything you want but you might want to afford everyone else the same courtesy.What I don't understand is why you give a damn what anyone else thinks. If you are so determined to do mankind some great service then perhaps you could volunteer at a hostel for the homeless or an animal shelter. You know, something that actually matters in the great scheme of things...
Arlene, thank you for your kind words. I feel so bad and I'm not even sure it was me, I do have a tendency sometimes to click and not check if my comment has been posted, I rush off to work etc.(sounds weird, I know) I would never, ever say anything to deliberately hurt anyone here unless of course it was a hater/troll. I'm taking a break for a little while but I'll still read HKN and all the comments. Again thanks for your kind words.
SusannahKay
i don't pretend to care about animal shelters and other things on great scheme of things
and for some reason that post bothered/annoyed you. i wonder why? if your faith is so unshakeable?
Anani - Your post doesn't bother me,it's just that people like you fascinate me. Most of us have little enough free time as it is so why wouldn't you just spend it on things you enjoy.As I said,it just seems curious, I guess it's the psychologist in me .....
You know what; in light of recent events where clearly there are so many out there with 'agendas' i come in here just to look over the comments and what do you know, the favourite little shit-stirrer is at it again?'
It doesn't come as a surprise to me, not one bit. Seems this wonderfully prolific at drive by posts, set to stir and annoy those who post in here, has nothing better to do that drag up posts from Gossip Cop of all places; that seedy little underbelly of vile and disgusting cyberbullies and tho and behold does a copy and paste into here.
Let me make this very clear, in gossip sites you will always have your group of undesirables; heck knows i saw enough of the 'waste of time' idiots during the early yrs of the Awful Truth board, so i am well prepared for literally anything that is thrown at those who strongly support a couple's relationship, but it's come to my attention that it's not just the hater side that is playing games, but those who are wolves in sheeps clothing; infiltrating and pretending to be concerned and 'bringing to our attention' what is or is not going on, with insiders and outsiders and anyone with knowledge other than the fan fiction that runs around inside their minds.
I couldn't care less if the person who runs this blog is an insider, has insider knowledge, is posting out of her ass or not - i am not concerned one bit. People who come in here have used this place as a supportive place, because the vile hate of Gossip Cops comment sections has proven that there are absolute first class idiots out there, who will come on and pretend they are something they are not, while dobbing on others (that's telling lies, making up stories, pointing the finger) - to those not versed in the colourful slang of Australian, blunt and to the point thoughts. As a Brit, we just call people like that assholes!!
So really what have we gained by anani's 'thoughtful copy and paste?' Nothing really, other than she is doing what she believes she does best, shit stir for her own malicious agenda. I have to admit, you took your time coming over here with that, in light of behind backs secret messages from someone who people used to think was an 'insider' and she turned out to be a flake also. I suppose you believe exposing those you think are leading double lives assures you that your beliefs are justifiable?
If that be the case then really, i do sincerely hope that you find the intelligence in your head and grow up, if you don't believe fine, but go and find those who also don't believe and have a nice time bitching and laughing together. The only reason you come in here is that it gives you a sense of purpose, a sense of belonging, because your RL is so dull and empty to build up this much discontent about other people.
SusannahKay; as a behavioural psychologist myself i do find her lack of social interaction except when she is goading and bothering others to be immensely fascinating to me, but i can play those kind of games too, its just a pity that her pattern of behaviour is so repetitive and mundane, the same usual drive of attack and leave or drop comments with malicious intent, because she knows it will stir people up, thus making her feel more important than others.
Technology comes with a price. Anyone can log on to a computer and say whatever they want. No background checks, no mental evaluations, no identify, just a computer. And as long as this is our reality, we will always get nuts like anani who feels the need to give advice to adults as if they are children needing protection from the big bad wolf. Anani, if you are right it will mean you are standing in the middle of a shit pile screaming "stinky, stinky!" You come on this site every day, every hour, with a load of self righteous bullshit make believing you are relevant somehow. Truth is, this is your life. I am willing to bet, with all your bullshit talk, this is your only form of a social life. This is why you are here. You are here by choice, and if this site is full of shit; it seems to me you are standing in it and eating it up. Every.single.day.
Tempest - my area is business psychology and I see this kind of doom and gloom "sabotage" mentality over and over in people with low self esteem and a deep-seated fear of failure. It's as if they have to undermine those they perceive as more popular or successful than themselves to feel less worthless yet their predictions of disaster rarely come true. I think that's what fascinates me.It's like watching a moth repeatedly flying into a window,trying to get to the light inside. All it ever achieves is a bloody sore head!
Good morning to all the HKN Havens! Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I just woke up and getting for work today but I won't be home for lunchtime.
Tempest, Elizabeth, and SusannahKay- Actually, Anani fits on the categories of T-rex that I mention last night. Maybe she is hungry for lies and hate. So I agree with you three. As for us we like that Dinosaur movies the leaf eaters who stands up to T-rex at the end of the movie. What they did with T-rex he falls off the cliff. And we won against the T-rex. So I am glad that you beat those T-rex. Remember Haters, trolls, tabs, Papz, nonnies, nonberts, all the gossip trashy sites, and all the troubles makers are T-rex which are the bad guys. They are hungry for lies, hate, and money. So Anani fit that profile. Us as leaf eaters I am just saying are the good guys/gals. We are standing and support Rob and Kristen. And I agree with you guys.
vana- Don't leave us. We love having you here. Stay and continue on standing up for our couple. And don't give up on us. And you're welcome.
Well, I better get going I have to go to work. Keep me posted. Later.
You know what i have just read your post anani and sorry but i have to simply laugh at your constructive criticism if thats what you want to call it? Look at my blog, read it if you must, i have NO agenda in my blog or my posts other than i am a respectful supporter of BOTH and do not see of feel the need to stir up trouble by posting and making accusations that you so plainly and purposely do on here. Furthermore, been around the block or two in this fandom and have seen the likes of yourself come and go. all blowing smoke and ash, all feeling the need to 'expose the truth' when all you do is read the gossip and believe in it; Then go around blogs like this, offering up your point of view with insipid comments, seen to be of concern when it is nothing short of veiled comedy behind your beliefs.
Your posts (all of them) are reflective of this and you should not be honoured that i have singled you out, you should see this as something you should look very carefully at and why you feel the need to annoy and goad people in here, pretending you are something you are not?
As for as my agenda (laughing) my only agenda is to expose people who lie and cause a nuisance in a fandom of people who respect two actors equally and together and that they dislike more than anything fandom drama queens such as yourself and others who have followed you through to here and post with equal dismay and disrespect. but hey if you think i have alternative motives, go for it - ain't no skeletons in my closet and i have never ever professed to be an insider LOL
anani,
when you write things like this:
"there are some posters who have more sense than this whole blog taken together"
you show your true colors and they are ugly. to me you are no better than anny packer, so i now anoint you ananny. you are the one trolling, cutting, pasting, lecturing, highlighting, so if anyone is R/K's worst nightmare it is you.
sorry, to all the really nice people on this board, but i feel compelled to call out malicious sneaks wherever i see them these days.
Tempest- Good morning! Way to go girl. You have defeated the T-rex. So I am agree with you there.
onagee- Good morning! And no you're good. Just like I told tempest. You guys have defeated the T-rex. I am sure that is the ring to it. Well, I better get going. Hope you all have a great day.
My oh My. Ladies I just got up and re-read this post and all the comments. I knew that ANANI would return if she felt that damage was being accomplished on this blog by some other people you are well aware of. I appreciate Tempest and Susanna and Arlene and VERNISTENE and HATERS KNOW NOTHING and Mama Nails, Lisa G , and ALL OF YOU ! I thank you for keeping the air CLEAN AND SWEET for those of us that love Rob and Kristen for just being themselves. You have courage and integrity and this is what is missing so badly from the GOSSIP LIARS. Please say more prayers for the US for all the families and children affected by the RICH MAN'S GOVERNMENT shut-down. Thanks again ladies, you are doing everyone a great service.
How about we try something different - ignore the haters posts. They are probably posting because they know that they can get a rise out of you which is probably all they are looking for in the first place. We should just let them post and not respond to them and maybe they will get the hint and go somewhere else to get their jollies
@Mickeymackey, yeah I'm with you. I'm so fckn sick of these harpy troll harlets and all the negativity in general, I'm ignoring (or at least trying very hard) them all. It's the way they get their kicks for the day, hate and gloat. Such lovely human beings.
ananni
Lol I guess if you want to believe some GC fool go right ahead. I'm thinking you both have the same IQ zero. Bet you bought into the new Annie Packer photo shopped Kristen pics too. why do you come on this blog? You know there is NO one that thinks the same as you here and if you think copying and pasting some fools GC remarks is outting somebody I feel sorry for your stupidity.Good luck with your delusions. Take them elsewhere.
Hello everyone. I'm new to posting here, but have been lurking for about 6 months. Really love your blog HKN, thanks so much for keeping it going!
Jan
Thought I'd put my two cent into the mix, as far as this blog is concerned.
I've been an RK fan since 2009, and love them for all the same reasons all the other posters here do. When I found this sight, I didn't know what to make of it at first..... Let's face it, anyone can start up a blog. HKN could be a 14 year old boy sitting in the back woods of West Viringia for all we know. Lol.
But as I continued to visit the sight and read her post, my respect grew. And I believe. I have always believed in RK's relationship, through the good and the bad. And I believe in HKN, and what she has to say about the state of their personal lives.
I trust her when she post information that comes from her cousin. Because, let's face it, very little info has actually been shared that has come from her; the ring, the truck pics, Rob living/being with Kristen, and not much more. If she posted some tidbit of RK personal info from her cousin on a regular basis, I would cry wolf.
But she doesn't... She packs her post with insight and logical deduction when deciphering all the crap put out there by nonbelievers and tabloid money mongers. And when her cousin is gracious enough to share something, HKN post it.
I've always gotten the impression HKN cares about the RK fans that follow her, almost as much as she cares about RK. She seems to understand, it's easy to get stuck in the muck when it's constantly being thrown at you, and she works hard to keep our spirits up. So thank you, HKN, I truly appreciate that!
Jan
To Jan, just wanted to say hi to you and enjoyed your posts.
Good afternoon everyone!!
SussanahKay and Tempest, since you are both in the pyschology field, can you explain what makes grown women act with such insanity regarding someone who has nothing to do with them in RL? What causes the hatred and vile actions?
It doesn't make sense to me that how anyone can become so filled with so much hate that they would rather see their idol miserable and called Manwhore/slut instead of happy.
Whenever I see Anny Packer's name mentioned or trolls who continue to come here and post vile gossip, I get sick. Seriously, I believe they have some major issues in their RL and are taking it out on two people whom they *idolize.
To the ladies who come here to share their love for R/K and support them, I think your wonderful. To the trolls, go dig a hole some place please.
@Jan Huether, howdie girl. I'M exactly like you. I'm here not that long, a few months maybe. Didn't know what to think of it in the beginning, I was rather wary, mostly protecting myself but my respect grew as well and I feel very comfortable commenting here.
@RKlove, I don't understand it either, never did and after 3,5 yrs of being a R&K fan I'm still none the wiser.
They rather have Rob being a manwhore than being in a committed relationship with Kristen. Now how sick is that? Wonder if they like their husbands and BF's screwing around on them as well.
I am no therapist or mystic but I just believe that the primary reason to disrupt or come here to hurt others is because they want attention and this is the only way a hater gets their kicks, because they are so full of anger and they do get attention here. If you could simply delete them ASAP they would not be allowed to spout their negativity and disgust thinking people who do come here to just say hi and enjoy the company. Love this post and all posts that support both Rob and Kristen with equal respect.
HKN...IMO, the best offence against the annani's of this fandom is no defense at all. But by all means, keep your finger close to that delete key.
Annai, it seems like you have a very personal vendetta against HKN. Why can't you just be happy for the work Rob and Kristen are doing?
Arleen, thank you and how are you? It's morning here where I live.
I have always told my daughters that if they should never put anything in print because it will come back to haunt you time and time again. Anani - you don't have to worry I won't be using your comments at all and especially since you don't know how to spell. Does your computer not have spell check?????
FLOWER GIRL, I think you are right on target and I agree with Tempest also about the ugly people in general. And now for a new and beautiful subject-don't you think Kristen looks happy and great out in the Italian countryside! Wow, what terrific scenery--and horses to boot. This was a good and healthy choice for her and she has very good people around her , and the lead actress is a lovely person who has acted with Rob and probably knows them both. They do such good work, I hope they both are showing their work on the French Awards again, I guess it's ok to wish them great good luck again. Peace be with you.
Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I just home dinner, running errands and doing the dishes and just laundry. Did I miss anything?
Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! I am about to go to bed now. Before this is what I have to Anyways, as I was telling HKN, DIDY, and I am going to tell Rose too. This is what I have been telling and Rose I don't mind you use this. Sometimes I have good ideas. I don't know if you all agree with me. By the way I forgot to add one things. DIDY, HKN, and RPI plus all that support Rob and Kristen are the three horns dinosaurs and are the good guys. You guys have defeated the T-rex and all the meat eaters predators. T-rex and all the meat eaters dinosaurs and animals like Vultures are trolls, haters, nonnies, tabs, all the trashy gossip sites, and all those trouble makers. And always hungry for hate, money, and lies. But you guys have defeated them. So I am very proud of you guys. I don't know if I made sense. I am on your side. Maybe also Rose, tempest, and HKN can use that too. Like I said and I know this is your blog. I thought maybe you can add on your blog for the next blog. I don't mind giving ideas. Maybe want to get a pictures of that with words. Well I am going to bed now. Keep me posted. Love all of you. I still believe and I know in my heart they are together. Back in my 80's, My friends or classmates use to pass or write love letters or notes. At the end of the letter or notes when you are in really in love. We usually use to say at the end to each True love always and Forever. So I believe that for Rob and Kristen. I have been praying for that for them. Well I am going to bed now. Keep me posted. And goodnight. :)
Hello, in the last 2 days I have only looked at these discussions and find it terribly bringing people want to play in the foreground have just because they get bored. You should just ignore the haters and let them write what they think. I only see that it is at R and K become very quiet you can hear from kristen currently nothing because they still finished the film in Italy. And rob you only see nice photos where he attended concerts with friends. This is the worse of all the haters currently nothing happened and all have to invent stories, somehow people have to earn their money. And I still do not understand it wild discussions on a board of K and R is so discharged. Who would not want to see together K and R does not need HKN visit. I find this site great. On all other waiting to R and K show off back together and give them the time, kristen will soon be home again. If my English is not good then be excused, it is not my native language;-)
I am so tired reading about Rob dating Dylan Penn and not seeing any proof of it. While I don't understand why she wouldn't say that she isn't dating him no pictures speak a thousand words. So I will leave with this - either put up or shut up we are sick to death hearing your drabble.
Mickeymackey - Had you even heard of Dylan Penn before this tabloid bs came out? Most people hadn't, now pretty much every R/K fan and casual reader of gossip mags has. That's why she's not commenting.
Mickeymackey, Susannah—previous people the tabs said RP was "dating" denied and it made no difference at all. The stories and crazy "fans" just kept going. It makes me think of the "we will not negotiate with terrorists" stance—Dylan and her parents might not want her to even acknowledge the tabs exist. Just a thought....
Good morning to all the HKN Havens! Hi Elizabeth, sue morris, felicity, Saphire1231, LizzieD, irene, Tomoto, Atticus, Tempest, Barbara Fenwick, KK, HKN, sue, Mickeymackey, MARTHA ORIZ, morning coffee, and the rest of HKN Havens! Its raining where I live. Pretty soon we get some snow from what I have heard from news or my hubby. We already weather set. By covering and turn off the water for the yard and the cooler that we have. We are just preparing for the winter. I hope you guys are too.
Mickeymackey & onagee- One I don't believe it. And two tabs are just T-rex. They are hungry for lies and money. They don't care who they hurt. Hope you all have a good day.
@Mia a link might prevent said "labeling".
It truly amazes me when peeps opinionate without providing proof to support it.
Wow from a 6s video one can make a determination on a status of one's relationship. Maybe Rob was there like an older brother to watch over but doing his own thing in the house; family do look out for each other but don't have to be stuck like glue. You even stated that it is supposed to be K's brothers so you are not even 100% sure therefore your comments are a moot point. Also do you know every aspect of Kristen's house (internal and external) to know that there is only one bowl in the house? I doubt Kristen has group tours like the White House at her residence.
@Mia oh would that be this link: http://vinebox.co/proxy/http___v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/1D323112-6C65-4EA2-996A-34D5ED0B33F2-1070-00000126F3554E86_1e521702beb.1.mp4
Yeah, you are reading way to much into it. I also hear a video game in the back ground, who's to say Rob wasn't playing the game. And I see only Taylor, NOT Cameron, brother(s) (plural) is an assumption that is NOT quite accurate.
Thanks Tomoto. Seriously one could not make assumption about a relationship on that video. Given the kids look to be fooling around maybe Rob was there to supervise but not in the shot. Like you stated he could have been playing the video game.
Mia really has gone full-on troll.
Just watch the SIX second video of K's bro at what appears to be her house....
What did I see/hear?
Two guys goofing off, one wearing what looks like part of K's SWATH armor (lol).
There was a metal dog bowl in the middle of the floor by their feet (weird place for a dog bowl). We keep our dogs bowls in the kitchen.
I heard someone playing video games in the background.
Based on what's in this SIX second video, I don't see how anyone can draw the conclusion that K's brothers are there taking care of just the puppy while K is away, because Rob is obviously not staying there any longer.
Who's to say Rob isn't there? Maybe he's the one playing video games? We do know he has hung out with K' s brothers/family in the past, so why not now?
I don't see how a metal dog bowl in the middle of the floor equals only one dog living there. That's not a likely place for a dogs bowl to be kept anyway. Who knows why it's there, but I think it's a stretch to say one bowl on the floor equals only one dog living in the house.
Final thoughts...... This very short video gives no evidence that Rob and the two dogs are not staying/living at K's house. It's not enough evidence to draw any conclusion at all in my opinion, but her brother wearing what's looks like her armor costume is funny!
It's interesting how some people tend to always look for the negative side of things....
Cheers!
Jan
Mia - Why are you contradicting yourself. First you stated that " simply don't feel the need to know the names or faces of their friends and family" but you point out the blonde to be Kristen's cousin. Also just not long ago Rob and Kristen were both shooting movies (him in LA and Toronto) and her in LA for camp x-ray with long shooting days at the same time. So who else would look after the dogs?? Many discussions have already be done on this topic so I won't waste any more time on it.
In between I also have two dogs here and a water bowl because both drink from the same vessel. Maybe the two have been taking care of the dogs and Rob was on the way! (Concert?)
God knows why I'm paying any attention to Mia's lunacy but... I have 2 sets of 2 dog bowls,one each for food and water for each dog. They start off on mats at opposite ends of the kitchen BUT my puppy prefers to play with them rather than her toys. When I left for work this morning 1 was where it should be,1 was upside down in a puddle of the water it had contained, in the doorway of the utility room,1 was in her bed,1 was halfway up the stairs!
Mia - who obsesses about irrelevant minutae like that?
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